Best time to sell music equipment?

[MichaelR]

Local powerhouse employers are interesting. Reminded me of a story I heard about that happened when my dad was a kid then later worked for the compny. Rohr industries grew the town from 4k to 30k and the city council was getting a little uppity with the company founder.

To show the impact of Rohr in Chula Vista, the company paid all of
its employees in silver dollars on one payday in the 1950s. Instead of
paychecks, each employee received their share of the 12 tons of silver
coins in individual canvas bags.

It was nuts for a year. And people didn't know what to do with all the coins. The council backed off on whatever it was that spurred Rohr. I even went to the elementary school named after him and so did one of my coworkers.

I worked on a Hazmat project right next to seaworld in Mission Bay which was a waste dump for Rohr Industries back way back in WW2. People don't know it but its toxic as hell under Seaworld S.D. The city was planning to build a boat ramp directly next to Seaworld so one of our guys was digging the ramp itself and dug up some barrels, he became ill then went home and died. I forget the name of the substance that was down there but I remember it would numb you nose to its smell so that you would smell it for a second and then the smell was gone but the gas was still there, VERY DANGEROUS. Because I worked in the fill area away from the main dig I was not required to wear a hazmat suit however I remember going home with a big headache everyday. The city abandoned the job, I was glad when they didn't need me anymore and laid me off.

[nomadh]

Local powerhouse employers are interesting. Reminded me of a story I heard about that happened when my dad was a kid then later worked for the compny. Rohr industries grew the town from 4k to 30k and the city council was getting a little uppity with the company founder.

To show the impact of Rohr in Chula Vista, the company paid all of
its employees in silver dollars on one payday in the 1950s. Instead of
paychecks, each employee received their share of the 12 tons of silver
coins in individual canvas bags.

It was nuts for a year. And people didn't know what to do with all the coins. The council backed off on whatever it was that spurred Rohr. I even went to the elementary school named after him and so did one of my coworkers.

I worked on a Hazmat project right next to seaworld in Mission Bay which was a waste dump for Rohr Industries back way back in WW2. People don't know it but its toxic as hell under Seaworld S.D. The city was planning to build a boat ramp directly next to Seaworld so one of our guys was digging the ramp itself and dug up some barrels, he became ill then went home and died. I forget the name of the substance that was down there but I remember it would numb you nose to its smell so that you would smell it for a second and then the smell was gone but the gas was still there, VERY DANGEROUS. Because I worked in the fill area away from the main dig I was not required to wear a hazmat suit however I remember going home with a big headache everyday. The city abandoned the job, I was glad when they didn't need me anymore and laid me off.

Holy crap. And right next to the ocean? You'd think at least bury it out in the desert. I'll bet they used some serious shit in aerospace in the 50s with no thought s of what to do with it after.

[MichaelR]

Holy crap. And right next to the ocean? You'd think at least bury it out in the desert. I'll bet they used some serious shit in aerospace in the 50s with no thought s of what to do with it after.

Yeah dude its been kept a big secret I'm sure but the area directly east of Seaworld SD is toxic as hell and all those peeps ripping around on there skeedoos have no idea. I walked down to the waters edge there and they had these tubes leaching something out of them at that time but I was in my in my early 30s am almost 70 now so who know's whats happened since. I've never heard of a super fund clean up there, Some of the area of the around Seaworld was made by dumping much of it toxic and then covered over as they dredged mission bay. I was an Operating Engineer, we did all of the dredging and dirt work although it was before my time.

[Gear_Junky]

Holy crap. And right next to the ocean? You'd think at least bury it out in the desert. I'll bet they used some serious shit in aerospace in the 50s with no thought s of what to do with it after.

Yeah dude its been kept a big secret I'm sure but the area directly east of Seaworld SD is toxic as hell and all those peeps ripping around on there skeedoos have no idea. I walked down to the waters edge there and they had these tubes leaching something out of them at that time but I was in my in my early 30s am almost 70 now so who know's whats happened since. I've never heard of a super fund clean up there, Some of the area of the around Seaworld was made by dumping much of it toxic and then covered over as they dredged mission bay. I was an Operating Engineer, we did all of the dredging and dirt work although it was before my time.

I recall the environmental mantra of those days was "the solution to pollution is dilution"

[uwmcscott]

I recall the environmental mantra of those days was "the solution to pollution is dilution"

Or burn it. Or just bury it.

My dad grew up on my great uncles farm and anything that was too big to fit in the burn barrel would usually get buried out in the "dump" which was just the foundation of the old original farmstead.

[zisme]

when you need to make room for the next thing

tax season?

[andrewsrea]

[mention]uwmcscott[/mention] : Congrats on working towards your MBA! Even though it is a lot of work, my advice is go for the 'A' and enjoy the ride. Striving for the 'A' gives you the added learning that will stick with you for a long time.

[mention]Gear_Junky[/mention] : You said inferred about ivory tower economists not considering the emotional / personal aspect of economics. I had the privilege of studying under Dr. Phillip S. Klein, who was on the board of economic advisors for Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. His father was on the economic board for Eisenhower, JFK & LBJ. BTW: this is when these boards were not politically motivated.

As you advance in economic theories and studies, you begin marrying macro economics with micro economics (which includes the fickle variable of human nature). Both Dr. Klein's wrote lengthy books on this and IMHO, were very open on what was considered a pretty undisputable economic rule and what was 'educated speculation.' I had to read 3 of their books in one tri-mester for a total of 2100 pages. The bad part of that is, the content made you stop and think, so getting through them was a long process. But, worthwhile.

The other bad part of that experience is, the further down the rabbit hole of economics you go - the hard it becomes to explain in simple terms. For example: the harder you tax the uber rich, the less tax revenue you'll collect. Try explaining that to your neighbor!

For the last bad part of being versed in economics, I'll quote the late Dr. Klein: "you'll be the most boring person at parties - every time."

[Gear_Junky]

@Gear_Junky : You said inferred about ivory tower economists not considering the emotional / personal aspect of economics. I had the privilege of studying under Dr. Phillip S. Klein, who was on the board of economic advisors for Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. His father was on the economic board for Eisenhower, JFK & LBJ. BTW: this is when these boards were not politically motivated.

Call me a cynic, but these things are never not politically motivated. It's basically like the impossibility of absolute zero temperature Things just get so much worse, that previous things seem not so bad. IMHO.

The other bad part of that experience is, the further down the rabbit hole of economics you go - the hard it becomes to explain in simple terms. For example: the harder you tax the uber rich, the less tax revenue you'll collect. Try explaining that to your neighbor!

Yes. But it's not because of complexity of economics, the fault lies squarely on the neighbor But I've explained this concept "in a nutshell" to people who don't get into economics. In 1 sentence: "the uber rich have enormous resources to hire lawyers/accountants, to move and shelter production, wealth and revenue streams, they use shell companies and tax shelters, AND THEY DON'T PAY INCOME TAX ON SALARY, BECAUSE THEIR INCOME COMES FROM CAPITAL GAINS". This bit about them not having salary/wages should be enough to get people to stop and think. People get so fixated on the emotional aspect, it becomes more important to "make them pay" than for them to collect any benefits of the action. Just like bolsheviks in Russia got everyone to "share all the wealth" and most of those people ended up shot or in gulags building the utopia. But their emotions, their "hearts" were surely in the right place.

But hey, I don't want to get into these topics at a guitar forum, which brings us to the next point:

For the last bad part of being versed in economics, I'll quote the late Dr. Klein: "you'll be the most boring person at parties - every time."

I'd say I already am and the few threads here where we strayed from music/gear, I think that's already established

[andrewsrea]

[mention]Gear_Junky[/mention] I can under stand your skepticism regarding politics, but the board of economists that Dr. Klein served on, their reports to the Presidents and to the Nation were required reading for us. No doctoring, no spinning and they called out where they were certain and where they were not confident in the data. They were honest reports in my book. Since these reports were way in hindsight by the time I got to his class (he was called to serve for Reagan the second class I had with him and I never got to see those reports), they were sometimes predictive and sometimes not.

Now what the politicians did with these reports is a whole other story that we did not get into.

[tonebender]

I've had great luck all year getting rid of all my gear. I am down to a few amps and a few guitars.

[Morrison]

Everything I’ve listed lately has been sold within a day. Both Craigslist and reverb.


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[nomadh]

The other bad part of that experience is, the further down the rabbit hole of economics you go - the hard it becomes to explain in simple terms. For example: the harder you tax the uber rich, the less tax revenue you'll collect. Try explaining that to your neighbor!

For the last bad part of being versed in economics, I'll quote the late Dr. Klein: "you'll be the most boring person at parties - every time."

Is it so hard to explain? People don't like having their money taken. They didn't get rich letting people take their stuff and rich people have the time and money to do something about it. The details could go on forever but isn't that about it?

It must have been a glorious time back when you could read something without any spin (within human ability).

[nomadh]

Everything I’ve listed lately has been sold within a day. Both Craigslist and reverb.


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It does seem now will be the most perfect time in the last 15 years.

[Gear_Junky]

I do browse local Craigslist and I see the same guitars in the $1-2k range - some guy selling his collection (you can tell from photos it's the same house). They're not selling fast. Offering for sale is one thing. Actually selling is a function of price, on any day

[Gear_Junky]

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Hi, nomadh. Wondering if you saw my PM's

[uwmcscott]

I've had great luck all year getting rid of all my gear. I am down to a few amps and a few guitars.

Is the C30 still in the mix?

[solteroblues]

I'm not having any luck selling any of my stuff. Heck, I've bought 3 guitars during the time that I haven't been able to sell 2.

[voodoorat]

my takamine 12 string and mustang i amp aren't selling, but they're kinda trash (unless you're local to atlanta, in which case they're a real bargain at any price!). picked up a loaded j bass body cheap and slapped that mim neck on it, so now i got a frankenbass.

[Chocol8]

but they're kinda trash (unless you're local to atlanta, in which case they're a real bargain at any price!)

If you are using that same text in your Craigslist ad, I think I know why your not getting any buyers!