A $200+ SX Tele???

[mickey]

I'm finding this difficult to believe!

https://www.rondomusic.com/product10808.html

[Bullcat]

No kidding! I also find it hard to believe there's really that much demand for a strat trem on a tele.

[toomanycats]

$229.95 to be exact.

What's even crazier is that somebody will likely ask double that when it eventually hits the used market.

[mickey]

$229.95 to be exact.

What's even crazier is that somebody will likely ask double that when it eventually hits the used market.

Well that is because they will have replaced the tuners, nut, pups, pots, saddles, switch, etc. & probably the trem.
I guess in extreme cases neck & body too.

[uwmcscott]

Not surprising really - everything costs more now than it did a year ago in general. On top of that this one is Ash which is now a "scarce" wood and has the added trem.

I'm not suggesting that it's a pleasant development ( the price increase ) but we can also be thankful that pricing on guitars hasn't gone completely insane like building materials, real estate, vehicles, etc.

[Mossman]

The Ash Furrian used to cost $129 back in 2015, but the price has been creeping up steadily since then. It's been at $229 for a while now, and he's not asking more for the tremolo version. In all fairness I wouldn't call this is a sudden, or "crazy" price jump. It's been a steady climb.

I still think it's a good deal. This is the same price as an Affinity, and I think a Furrian is a step up, from that. Besides, when have you ever seen an Affinity made of Ash?

[mozz]

Take off the term and I might even look at it.

[sabasgr68]

I like the shape, the wood and the headstock, but if it lacks the 22th fret, I don´t like it anymore...

I need it for some songs that I like to play; bending from the 21th fret to the target note it´s very hard

[slowhand84]

I'm finding this difficult to believe!

https://www.rondomusic.com/product10808.html

I mean hey if all these whackjobs on Reverb can put their used dinged up SX guitars up for $400+, no reason Kurt can't get $200+ for his shiny new ones

[honyock]

With even Affinity Squiers in that price point, it isn't too far off from what the going rate is today.

That said, I think I'd rather buy a Harley Benton and pay the extra $30 shipping to get a nicer instrument in my recent experiences with both brands.





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[Partscaster]

Why should any sold body cost much more? Chunk of wood with robot cnc shaping etc.
On the other hand, an American Ash body ( if thats what it really is) will cost you $150 unfinished, or more.
Sure, the trem may need replacement with full sized parts, and the headstock sucks, the bodies thinner and the neck radius is 12.
Prices based on children's Right To Work laws, arent going to be able to suppress the markets forever.

[redman]

IMO the SX tremolos are total and absolute crap 6 screw construction with a paper thin block and screw in bar. I blocked the trem on my SX Strat and have thought about doing a bridge and saddles with a stop bar I have about $230 in my SX Strat and modded it pretty much the same way as @mickey described Fender Tex Mex pups new nut Grover 406c locking tuners CTS pots new switch and output jack AND I LOCKED THE TREMOLO DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS CRAP.

[Partscaster]

I will eventually be replacing the trems on SX Hawk p90's , and it will require a little routing out of block cavity so large block can have ample swing room. Replacement full size vintage style Fender trems can be found on amazon for about 30-35$, they tend to come with pot metal block, but compatible steel alternate blocks can be found for 25$.

[Mossman]

IMO the SX tremolos are total and absolute crap 6 screw construction with a paper thin block and screw in bar. I blocked the trem on my SX Strat and have thought about doing a bridge and saddles with a stop bar I have about $230 in my SX Strat and modded it pretty much the same way as @mickey described Fender Tex Mex pups new nut Grover 406c locking tuners CTS pots new switch and output jack AND I LOCKED THE TREMOLO DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS CRAP.

Haha! +1.

I put a brass block and stainless steel block saddles on mine, then I decked it and unscrewed the whammy bar, because I couldn't deal with it swinging all over the place. I have a Wilkinson trem with a push-in bar on my other (Sun King) Strat that's 1000x better than the SX trem. Then again, anything is 1000x better than that POS.

[Mossman]

I will eventually be replacing the trems on SX Hawk p90's , and it will require a little routing out of block cavity so large block can have ample swing room. Replacement full size vintage style Fender trems can be found on amazon for about 30-35$, they tend to come with pot metal block, but compatible steel alternate blocks can be found for 25$.

The Wilkinson unit I mentioned has a full-thickness, short block (which you'll probably need for a Hawk), and a pop-in bar. I also like that it's a pretty burly, high-mass design:



Price on Amazon is $33: https://smile.amazon.com/Wilkinson-Trem ... 662&sr=8-3

The block is pot metal, but I don't how much I care about that anymore. I could barely tell the difference when I swapped out the zinc block for a brass one on the other trem.

Also, I don't know about the Hawk, but the Gypsy Rose has plenty of room to maneuver in the rout for a full-thickness (short) block.

[Jaymo]

I will eventually be replacing the trems on SX Hawk p90's , and it will require a little routing out of block cavity so large block can have ample swing room. Replacement full size vintage style Fender trems can be found on amazon for about 30-35$, they tend to come with pot metal block, but compatible steel alternate blocks can be found for 25$.

The Wilkinson unit I mentioned has a full-thickness, short block (which you'll probably need for a Hawk), and a pop-in bar. I also like that it's a pretty burly, high-mass design:



Price on Amazon is $33: https://smile.amazon.com/Wilkinson-Trem ... 662&sr=8-3

The block is pot metal, but I don't how much I care about that anymore. I could barely tell the difference when I swapped out the zinc block for a brass one on the other trem.

Also, I don't know about the Hawk, but the Gypsy Rose has plenty of room to maneuver in the rout for a full-thickness (short) block.

If only I could find a left handed one. Yet another case of "Fuck the lefties."

Seriously, where can I get a good quality 6 screw replacement trem for my lefty Hawk? My Google fu has failed me.

[ID10t]

I will eventually be replacing the trems on SX Hawk p90's , and it will require a little routing out of block cavity so large block can have ample swing room. Replacement full size vintage style Fender trems can be found on amazon for about 30-35$, they tend to come with pot metal block, but compatible steel alternate blocks can be found for 25$.

The Wilkinson unit I mentioned has a full-thickness, short block (which you'll probably need for a Hawk), and a pop-in bar. I also like that it's a pretty burly, high-mass design:



Price on Amazon is $33: https://smile.amazon.com/Wilkinson-Trem ... 662&sr=8-3

The block is pot metal, but I don't how much I care about that anymore. I could barely tell the difference when I swapped out the zinc block for a brass one on the other trem.

Also, I don't know about the Hawk, but the Gypsy Rose has plenty of room to maneuver in the rout for a full-thickness (short) block.

If only I could find a left handed one. Yet another case of "Fuck the lefties."

Seriously, where can I get a good quality 6 screw replacement trem for my lefty Hawk? My Google fu has failed me.

Think military/M*A*S*H description
I know it doesn't help the lefty tax and I appoligize for that.

"6 screw strat bridge left handed wilkinson"

Wilkinson, L/Hand Tremolo (WVCR-LH)

Fender Vintage-Style Standard Series Stratocaster Left Handed Tremolo Assembly ('06-Present) - Chrome

Or

https://www.guitarpartsfactory.us/007-1 ... 0071016000

[honyock]

Can attest to the Fender being a drop in replacement for SX guitars. The block is full size, but you will need a Mexican trem arm to use it.

Wish I could find out where Harley Benton gets their deals on lefty trems, they get the full size steel blocks even in the $126 ST62 it looks like.

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[Jaymo]

So, the lefty version of the Wilkinson trem is about $60 more than the righty. Ouch.
The lefty tax is strong with Wilkinson. I really like the Wilkinson trem but may have to get the Fender.

Musical instrument and parts makers to lefties:

[Partscaster]

I will eventually be replacing the trems on SX Hawk p90's , and it will require a little routing out of block cavity so large block can have ample swing room. Replacement full size vintage style Fender trems can be found on amazon for about 30-35$, they tend to come with pot metal block, but compatible steel alternate blocks can be found for 25$.

The Wilkinson unit I mentioned has a full-thickness, short block (which you'll probably need for a Hawk), and a pop-in bar. I also like that it's a pretty burly, high-mass design:



Price on Amazon is $33: https://smile.amazon.com/Wilkinson-Trem ... 662&sr=8-3

The block is pot metal, but I don't how much I care about that anymore. I could barely tell the difference when I swapped out the zinc block for a brass one on the other trem.

Also, I don't know about the Hawk, but the Gypsy Rose has plenty of room to maneuver in the rout for a full-thickness (short) block.

Thanks for the wilkinson recommendation. I will keep the shorty in mind as I look at the fit again.
The 3 mahogany Hawk p90 SX's I got are 1.75" thick, which is nice. However, I think a full width block hits even the narrower top 1/4 inch of the trem slot opening's back rim...if I remember correctly from when I tried a full block. My conclusion was that I will need to rout the back of rim opening and perhaps some off back side of entire slot/block cavity. So, I now own a nice router.

[Mossman]

So, the lefty version of the Wilkinson trem is about $60 more than the righty. Ouch.

What?? So it costs $90?? That's nuts... Where did you see that? I had a hard time finding lefty tremolos at all. It seems you can get a left Wilinson WV6 (standard vintage-style Strat trem) from any number of European dealers for 50 or 60 Euros, but the only thing on this side of the Atlantic I could find (besides the scores of Chinese brands on Amazon) was a Fender MIM trem for $19:

https://www.amazon.com/Fender-Vintage-S ... 355&sr=8-4

[Jaymo]

So, the lefty version of the Wilkinson trem is about $60 more than the righty. Ouch.

What?? So it costs $90?? That's nuts... Where did you see that? I had a hard time finding lefty tremolos at all. It seems you can get a left Wilinson WV6 (standard vintage-style Strat trem) from any number of European dealers for 50 or 60 Euros, but the only thing on this side of the Atlantic I could find (besides the scores of Chinese brands on Amazon) was a Fender MIM trem for $19:

https://www.amazon.com/Fender-Vintage-S ... 355&sr=8-4

I can't seem to get the link to work, but the lefty Wilkinson is on Amazon for $91.36

[mickey]

I can't seem to get the link to work, but the lefty Wilkinson is on Amazon for $91.36

To get amazon links to work you have to do them like this (except remove the spaces I have to put in to keep the board from trying to execute them)

[u r l = put amazon link here ] Put text here describing the Amazon link [ / u r l ]

[Mossman]

I can't seem to get the link to work, but the lefty Wilkinson is on Amazon for $91.36

To get amazon links to work you have to do them like this (except remove the spaces I have to put in to keep the board from trying to execute them)

[u r l = put amazon link here ] Put text here describing the Amazon link [ / u r l ]

Hmmm... The link works for me, and I know Sabas has sent me Amazon links that did not have text inserted that worked. I don't really see how inserting text makes a difference.

[mickey]

It is the [ u r l = ] [ / u r l ] that make the difference.
Adding the text is optional.
Most Amazon links are too long (too many characters) for the board software to handle unless you put them in using [ u r l = ] [ / u r l ]