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A cousin passed last August. Friends and family gathered at sit-down function yesterday,, to celebrate the life of the deceased, 80 in attendance, most old or smart enough to have done the deed.

That was our first time at a gathering of more than six people, a bit weird-feeling, in retrospect, but most were known locals or extended family. Few came from out of state, which is the big issue here, now.

What are the chances of an odd virus strain in that crowd?
I was feeling sorry for the servers, as they work for function after function, without any control over their degree of safety.

Your own experience?
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I still have concerns and will for awhile. We are not going to a particular church something this Sunday because of concerns. We don't attend but every so often there are things that we go to for the purposes of love and support for people in "our circle." *for my LDS friends, we have an RM giving his return talk.

A few things... I thought since day one that "The Plague" (bubonic and others) lasted 5 years with multiple returns about every 20 years, I don't think this is over.

I think of masks like condoms, if you don't wear one because you aren't gonna get pregnant then I can't reason with you. Similarly, I am breathing the cooties of every person that any person ever breathed.

I believe in language. I believe that 90% (arbitrary) of the living population will be fully vacinated in the next 12-18 months (arbitrary).

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I have been fully vaccinated since Feb 3 (Moderna).
Thus I would wear a mask & go to the gathering. :)
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I just go along with the science. I think anything less is irresponsible, and there is too much of that already. At any point in time, each locale has its own situation to evaluate, so I can't opine outside my own.
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The big thing that people are forgetting is that the numbers WILL go up again in the fall. As we spend less time outside, and more time inside, the virus will spread again.

I believe in following the science, but also that it is better to be cautious and wrong, than incautious and wrong.

I also worry that, being fully vaccinated, I might get too comfortable and do something stupid.
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I avoid places like shopping malls and whatnot, but last weekend we went to one in Phoenix on the way back from vacationing in relative isolation of Flagstaff and I could not believe the mass of people in that place. There was apparently a NFL player visiting some random store and there were well over a hundred young adults all bunched up in queue waiting to go in this tiny little store. It was pretty insane to me. We avoided the big crowd and went to one of the smaller stores to grab what we needed and got out of dodge.

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PoodlesAgain wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:34 pm A cousin passed last August. Friends and family gathered at sit-down function to celebrate the life of the deceased, 80 in attendance, most old or smart enough to have done the deed.

That was our first time at a gathering of more than six people, a bit weird-feeling, in retrospect, but most were known locals or extended family. Few came from out of state, which is the big issue here, now.

What are the chances of an odd virus strain in that crowd?
I was feeling sorry for the servers, as they work for function after function, without any control over their degree of safety.

Your own experience?
Sorry for your loss...


And, chances are always there. Other than that, anything else I´d say would be guessing...
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We had our first family gathering since all of this surfaced last year last Saturday afternoon. There was a birthday party for my nieces daughter that I did not attend in the morning last Saturday morning. One of my sisters, her mother, went along with her husband and her step sister. All came down with covid and 90% who attended the party tested positive.

The same sister, her husband and stepdaughter attended our get together in the afternoon the same day. Although they tested positive later in the week, none of the other afternoon attendees tested positive. I was in an office with someone at work on Monday, he went home early feeling bad and tested positive. Coughing, sneezing, had the chills. I got myself, as all others did from out afternoon gathering tested this past Sunday as a precaution, and I tested negative, as well as the remaining from
the afternoon family gathering. Have been home now since Monday evening, due to being exposed by my coworker. Isolated from my wife and sons since Monday evening as a precaution, but starting to feel not too peppy. Similar symptoms to my coworker. Guess it’s my turn at it. Will see how it goes. Wish me luck.
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SamIV wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:29 pm We had our first family gathering since all of this surfaced last year last Saturday afternoon. There was a birthday party for my nieces daughter that I did not attend in the morning last Saturday morning. One of my sisters, her mother, went along with her husband and her step sister. All came down with covid and 90% who attended the party tested positive.

The same sister, her husband and stepdaughter attended our get together in the afternoon the same day. Although they tested positive later in the week, none of the other afternoon attendees tested positive. I was in an office with someone at work on Monday, he went home early feeling bad and tested positive. Coughing, sneezing, had the chills. I got myself, as all others did from out afternoon gathering tested this past Sunday as a precaution, and I tested negative, as well as the remaining from
the afternoon family gathering. Have been home now since Monday evening, due to being exposed by my coworker. Isolated from my wife and sons since Monday evening as a precaution, but starting to feel not too peppy. Similar symptoms to my coworker. Guess it’s my turn at it. Will see how it goes. Wish me luck.
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I work at a hospital so I'm still erring on the side of caution based on the information I am given by the doctors that run our organization. They have received accolades for our surge plan and treatment plans, our 2 main hospitals ended up being the epicenter of a lot of the cases in the northeast part of Wisconsin and Upper Michigan as there are very few hospitals north of us with the capabilities that we have. By caution, I mean that they are still recommending mask wearing in our medical facilities, even for those vaccinated, and also recommending against large group gatherings. Having said that there were over 100,000 people jammed into a very small space in Milwaukee last night for the Bucks final game of the NBA playoffs, so we'll have to wait a couple weeks and see what the ramifications might be. For the most part everything is "back to normal" around here - events, restaurants, bars, stores are all open at full capacity and have been for quite some time, and there are no mask requirements in place either. Our case counts have been way down too, but we also have about 50 percent of the population vaccinated.

For the most part Covid 19 and it's variants are now endemic to the population- like influenza. Even if we got to a very high vaccination rate, C19 will never go away. It is far too contagious and mutates very quickly, unlike things like polio and measles and mumps that don't spread nearly as easily. How we manage it is the real question, not how we get rid of it.
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Glad you got to see more loved ones together in one place.

Here in Wisconsin, most places look like pre-pandemic. Heck, if you saw the Deer District outside the arena for the NBA finals, you wouldn't think there were any strains going around anymore. And I'm not saying that in a positive or negative way at all.

I took the quarantine seriously and was lucky to be able to work from home for the most part. I was the only one in my family that didn't get COVID, but most of my family members work in the medical field but also didn't take as much precautions in their personal lives as I did. I've been fully vaccinated for a few months and am going to concerts and whatnot without too much second thought now. I only wear a mask when required, like in public transportation. The danger pretty much only exists to the unvaccinated now. I feel bad for those who cannot get it, but the vast majority of people who aren't vaccinated just refuse to get one. A lot of those people (at least the ones I know) also refused to take precautions like social distancing and wearing masks through the whole thing. I'm over going out of my way to protect people that don't want to be protected and who often ridiculed me for caring about public health. I hope they don't get sick, but I can't help those who won't do the bare minimum to help themselves.

The thing that concerns me is that the virus mutates on transmission and the longer it is being transmitted, the more vaccine-resistant they'll be. The comfort now is that even though the vaccines are less effective of preventing infection of the Delta variant, it's still highly effective at preventing serious issues/death. Personally, I have little concern being a healthy 28-year old on top of being vaccinated. I always was more concerned of spreading it than getting sick, but like I said, I'm kinda over protecting people that don't want to be protected.
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@RockYoWorld uses the term public heath

This is a value that we all share and treasure, so your babies don't die, your grandpa can carry on telling stories, and everyone tries to do their part.
If you don;t want to participate in "public heath", go live in the freaking woods, stay there.
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PoodlesAgain wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:35 pm @RockYoWorld uses the term public heath

This is a value that we all share and treasure, so your babies don't die, your grandpa can carry on telling stories, and everyone tries to do their part.
If you don;t want to participate in "public heath", go live in the freaking woods, stay there.
But due to the vaccines, the people that are vulnerable are the ones out and about anyways. Why should people that are taking precautions stay holed up in their homes while the people they are trying to protect aren't benefiting from it at all? I'm vaccinated and unlikely to spread anything anyways. I'm going to live my life while I can. Otherwise, I'll never be able to go to another concert again in my life. If people that refuse to get vaccinated get sick, it's their own fault at this point. I stayed home for over a year while they were out partying. If they don't want to get vaccinated, then THEY can stay home.
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RockYoWorld wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:56 pm
PoodlesAgain wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:35 pm @RockYoWorld uses the term public heath

This is a value that we all share and treasure, so your babies don't die, your grandpa can carry on telling stories, and everyone tries to do their part.
If you don;t want to participate in "public heath", go live in the freaking woods, stay there.
But due to the vaccines, the people that are vulnerable are the ones out and about anyways. Why should people that are taking precautions stay holed up in their homes while the people they are trying to protect aren't benefiting from it at all? I'm vaccinated and unlikely to spread anything anyways. I'm going to live my life while I can. Otherwise, I'll never be able to go to another concert again in my life. If people that refuse to get vaccinated get sick, it's their own fault at this point. I stayed home for over a year while they were out partying. If they don't want to get vaccinated, then THEY can stay home.
On the nose. And this "were all in this together bs" really pisses me off. Small biz owners that were left to rot. Or have their businesses looted or burned while the cops had their thumb up their ass. (Wheres a korean grocer when you need him.) Others getting paid to not work while I went in everyday to get everyone else computing remotely. My friend working walmart said it was 3 months of black Friday but the damn teachers wouldn't even crawl out from under the beds.
We've been lied to, manipulated, bullied and I'm done. I've tried to be nice till recently. My boss hinted at masks again and I snapped hard at her. At this point I'm looking very forward to some busybody prick trying to mask shame me from across an empty field.
And the idiots running things really think they are going to entice people to vax when you cant even unmask?
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RockYoWorld wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:16 pmI always was more concerned of spreading it than getting sick, but like I said, I'm kinda over protecting people that don't want to be protected.
Amen. I just deleted my blathering reply about the unvaccinated riding our coattails to make room for this rant: I have to mask up again because I still can carry the virus (and its highly contagious variant) and might infect somebody who is not vaccinated thereby making me, by definition, somebody who is spreading the virus.

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I did quite a bit of research today about the variant, "breakthrough" cases, lying to employers about ones vaccination status, a grumpy unvaccinated nfl player and found this beauty...

100,000 Doctors & Medical Professionals Oppose COVID-19 Vaccine
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"The uninformed public is also targeted first and foremost, simply believing the government would never lie to them. The government is more than lying and these health professionals go on the record to document the government and media lies. As the vaccine is set to kill and cripple the seniors and the uninformed in the first wave of genocide, their vaccine induced deaths and disease states will be used as the excuse to force the vaccine on everyone else, as the evil media and corrupt government will simply re-label the medical genocide as COVID-19 or something more deadly than COVID. This has been the plan the entire time.
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Obviously, this is an extremist but, c'mon, man. People believe crap like this.
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Man, I forgot to give my condolences to you and your family.

I hope that you all have many good memories of him/her.
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tlarson58 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:16 pm Amen. I just deleted my blathering reply about the unvaccinated riding our coattails to make room for this rant: I have to mask up again because I still can carry the virus (and its highly contagious variant) and might infect somebody who is not vaccinated thereby making me, by definition, somebody who is spreading the virus.
Yeah. Since my original post here, my attitude has shifted a bit more to being willing to do what I need to to help protect those who are immunocompromised in our community, especially since I have a dear coworker who is in that boat, as well as a few friends. But it's just frustrating to me because we could be avoiding this.

I went to my first big concert Friday, seeing the Foo Fighters with what had to be 30,000 people. It was in open air, but I felt a bit guilty like I don't know if I was doing the right thing, especially knowing half the people in the group of 6 I went with isn't fully vaccinated. Thankfully, 2 of them are working on it, but the last guy is in the camp of people that believe articles like the one you shared.

Just a few years ago, I saw people I knew arguing on facebook that Algebra and science classes shouldn't be required for a high school degree. Those same people have been spreading misinformation online, not knowing how to calculate a percentage, understand any sort of statistics, or have a basic understanding of 9th grade biology. Not everyone has to know everything, but then they should listen to the experts in those fields. Heck, that's what I do. I'm an engineer, not a immunologist, but I understand the science well enough to believe what they're saying instead of some random person on the internet.
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For everyone here, SamIV is doing well and feeling better, in case you were wondering about him. Talked with him a couple of days ago.

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sabasgr68 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:50 pm For everyone here, SamIV is doing well and feeling better, in case you were wondering about him.

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Most assuredly! Sam is a good guy!
Even if he is a coonass! :D
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sabasgr68 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:50 pm For everyone here, SamIV is doing well and feeling better, in case you were wondering about him. Talked with him a couple of days ago.

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Yes the Coonass made it through. Others have had it much worse than I did. Wasn’t pleasant, but I have no right to complain. Now I have to catch up in work. Will be working the next 14 days straight. Be safe and take care.
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