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Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:57 am
by Overcome8
Hey guys I just bought a 2021 Gibson Les Paul Classic . I want to put a Gibson 57 plus pick up or a 59 Seymore Duncan pick up in the bridge. Does anyone know if one of those 2 pickups would plug right into the pots on my new guitar.
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:24 pm
by toomanycats
I'm guessing that by "plug right into the pots" you mean the quick connect thing. If so, that would depend upon whether a 2021 Gibson Les Paul Classic has a Quick Connect harness, and whether either the Gibson 57 Plus or Duncan 59 are available with that type of connectivity.
Unfortunately, I don't know that answer, but somebody here might.
We kinda live by the soldering iron around here.
Welcome to the forum by the way.
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:42 pm
by bc rich
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:13 pm
by Overcome8
ok so I bought the quick connect wires from Ebay, does anyone know how to connect the Gibson 57 plus wires as in what wires go where?
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:01 pm
by mighty_duck
Do you have pictures of the wires you got and the pickups you have?
Ideally, it should just be about matching colors.
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:20 pm
by ID10t
Agree with mighty_duck, but I would also consider taking it to your local guitar tech or someone who has direct experience with guitar wiring. Also might want to say your general location and there may be people here who can point you towards people.
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:13 am
by jtcnj
Have you given the stock pickups a fair trial period?
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:14 am
by golem
So I hate the PCB Quick connects because I had a guitar that came stock with two 57 classics but the bridge was weaker than the neck. Why do I bring this up? Because when I put any other Gibson quick connect pickups in they were wired out of phase. That's right, to save money they set it up so the 57s were all neck pickups and swapping any other pickups made them out of phase. There's no switch in the PCB to fix the phase (that would be cool!) so basically if you don't like that sound you're SOL. That means I can't guarantee you that other Gibson pickups wouldn't be OOP. But, that said, yes other Gibson pickups with the quick connect would work.
But yeah, this was a pricey Gibson (sold used for $1600 + shipping & taxes) so cost saving of that type wasn't acceptable to me.
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:18 am
by mickey
golem wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:14 am
So I hate the PCB Quick connects because I had a guitar that came stock with two 57 classics but the bridge was weaker than the neck. Why do I bring this up? Because when I put any other Gibson quick connect pickups in they were wired out of phase. That's right, to save money they set it up so the 57s were all neck pickups and swapping any other pickups made them out of phase. There's no switch in the PCB to fix the phase (that would be cool!) so basically if you don't like that sound you're SOL. That means I can't guarantee you that other Gibson pickups wouldn't be OOP. But, that said, yes other Gibson pickups with the quick connect would work.
But yeah, this was a pricey Gibson (sold used for $1600 + shipping & taxes) so cost saving of that type wasn't acceptable to me.
Quick Connects are not inherently bad, perhaps just Gibsons?
EMG uses them when you buy one of their replacements "kits" for a Strat (the kit replaces everything under the pickguard) it is a great time saver
w/o the Gibson problems.
Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:15 pm
by honyock
If they are a Molex type connector, you can remove the wire with some sort of pin typically the metal part comes out of the plastic part.
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Re: Gibson 57 plus
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:37 am
by golem
mickey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:18 am
Quick Connects are not inherently bad, perhaps just Gibsons?
EMG uses them when you buy one of their replacements "kits" for a Strat (the kit replaces everything under the pickguard) it is a great time saver
w/o the Gibson problems.
The Gibson quick connect worked, I just mean they were being cheap in a way that made it hard to use them with other Gibson Quick Connect items. I like the concept to some extent.