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NGD: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:45 pm
by Lacking Talent
Got hold of this yesterday!

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It's a one owner, still mint AGILE AL-3010SE OCEANBURST FLAME DAMN WIDE (the model can be seen advertised on the Rondo site at https://www.rondomusic.com/Agile_AL-301 ... lm_DM.html).

A few of the specs as measured on my example are a bit different from those published, so I'm listing them here for any that might find those small variances to be of interest...

Overall length: 40"
Scale length: 24-3/4"
Body thickness at the edge: 1-15/16"
Width at the upper bout: 9-1/4"
Width at the lower bout: 13-5/16"
Neck taper/thickness at the 1st fret: 3/4" (19.5 mm)
Neck taper/thickness at the 12th fret: 7/8" (21.5 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the nut: 1/4" (7.5 mm)
Overall string spacing at the nut: 1-9/16" (39.7 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the bridge: 3/8" (10 mm)
Overall string spacing at the bridge: 2" (52.5 mm)
Width of the neck at the nut: 1-7/8" (47 mm)
Width of the neck at the 12th fret: 2-1/8" (54 mm)
Width of the neck at the 21st fret: 2-3/16" (56 mm)
Neck radius: 13.7" (350 mm)
Weight: 9.3 pounds

It's an MIK originally purchased just a few months ago, and was built with a center-seamed 2 piece body (that even has some flame in the mahogany back), and what I'm pretty sure is a 3 piece (!) neck. It's solid as a rock, and my heaviest guitar (NOTE: reweighed it several times on different scales, consistently comes in at 9 lb even -- guess the seller's scale wasn't 100% accurate). There may be a maple cap beneath the flamed top veneer; I saw a horizontal seam around the upper portion of both pickup cavities' interior, but did not want to scrape away the shielding paint to see more -- no such seam or join, however, can be seen below the binding anywhere around the perimeter of the body, so maybe not. The seller fitted those knurled Telecaster-style knobs, and I think I'll keep 'em on (for the moment)!

Lucky for me, this baby's a got a lot of Seafoam Green in it (which I love), unlike the stock pic of the model, which photographed as straight up blue...

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Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:42 am
by JeffBeck
Nice! I love the oceanburst.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:13 am
by Houblues
Very Nice!

I'm curious about the string spacing, though. I was comparing your numbers to those on my Wide Agile. Same between-string spacing, mine are a little more on some strings, even. But my E to E inside measurement is more like 1 7/16, if that much (?). Recording error?

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:52 am
by AnotherJim
Congrats! HNGD!

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:40 am
by Partscaster
Looks great. Abalone looks good and ties in well with that version of oceanburst (it has varied some from batch to batch, sometimes more green, sometimes big white burst in center, all good, but that matches really well)

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:45 am
by fatjack
Looks great . The abalone plays well with the finish. My oceanburst is the same way seafoamy that photos as blue.my 3010 weighs the same as the 3100 and my 2500 all mahogany weighs 2 pounds more. Enjoy it looks like a winner.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:48 pm
by Lacking Talent
Houblues wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:13 am Very Nice!

I'm curious about the string spacing, though. I was comparing your numbers to those on my Wide Agile. Same between-string spacing, mine are a little more on some strings, even. But my E to E inside measurement is more like 1 7/16, if that much (?). Recording error?
Just double checked my E to E distance for you, and it measures just as listed above -- 1-9/16" (39.7 mm) -- which is why I thought it might be illuminating were I to share all these numbers, as I noticed some don't match up with the info on certain online product pages. I guess there are variations on the production line that perhaps don't almost make it to info posted on the website. Oh, and as far as I know, this is the factory nut as it was originally cut.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:59 pm
by Lacking Talent
fatjack wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:45 am Looks great . The abalone plays well with the finish. My oceanburst is the same way seafoamy that photos as blue.my 3010 weighs the same as the 3100 and my 2500 all mahogany weighs 2 pounds more. Enjoy it looks like a winner.
Great finish, but everything on your 3100 is backwards!
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Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:08 am
by fatjack
LOL It's built to keep it safe from the evil righty.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:20 pm
by dabbler
Lacking Talent wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:59 pm
fatjack wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:45 am Looks great . The abalone plays well with the finish. My oceanburst is the same way seafoamy that photos as blue.my 3010 weighs the same as the 3100 and my 2500 all mahogany weighs 2 pounds more. Enjoy it looks like a winner.
Great finish, but everything on your 3100 is backwards!
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LOVE the cream knobs! I don't know why mfrs don't provide them on guitars with cream plastics. They provide black knobs with black plastics, so why not cream?

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:46 pm
by fullonshred
Doggone near perfect! Congrats on your new beauty.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:20 pm
by Razzle
Nice! Always did like abalone with that Oceanburst!

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:11 pm
by Lacking Talent
Thanks, everybody. Heavier than I prefer, but sounds great!

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:25 pm
by Lacking Talent
Minor cosmetic enhancement (inspired by [mention]fatjack[/mention] above)...

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Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:26 pm
by TVvoodoo
Awesome!

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:11 pm
by nomadh
Lacking Talent wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:45 pm Got hold of this yesterday!

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It's a one owner, still mint AGILE AL-3010SE OCEANBURST FLAME DAMN WIDE (the model can be seen advertised on the Rondo site at https://www.rondomusic.com/Agile_AL-301 ... lm_DM.html).

A few of the specs as measured on my example are a bit different from those published, so I'm listing them here for any that might find those small variances to be of interest...

Overall length: 40"
Scale length: 24-3/4"
Body thickness at the edge: 1-15/16"
Width at the upper bout: 9-1/4"
Width at the lower bout: 13-5/16"
Neck taper/thickness at the 1st fret: 3/4" (19.5 mm)
Neck taper/thickness at the 12th fret: 7/8" (21.5 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the nut: 1/4" (7.5 mm)
Overall string spacing at the nut: 1-9/16" (39.7 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the bridge: 3/8" (10 mm)
Overall string spacing at the bridge: 2" (52.5 mm)
Width of the neck at the nut: 1-7/8" (47 mm)
Width of the neck at the 12th fret: 2-1/8" (54 mm)
Width of the neck at the 21st fret: 2-3/16" (56 mm)
Neck radius: 13.7" (350 mm)
Weight: 9.3 pounds

It's an MIK originally purchased just a few months ago, and was built with a center-seamed 2 piece body (that even has some flame in the mahogany back), and what I'm pretty sure is a 3 piece (!) neck. It's solid as a rock, and my heaviest guitar. There may be a maple cap beneath the flamed top veneer; I saw a horizontal seam around the upper portion of both pickup cavities' interior, but did not want to scrape away the shielding paint to see more -- no such seam or join, however, can be seen below the binding anywhere around the perimeter of the body, so maybe not. The seller fitted those knurled Telecaster-style knobs, and I think I'll keep 'em on (for the moment)!

Lucky for me, this baby's a got a lot of Seafoam Green in it (which I love), unlike the stock pic of the model, which photographed as straight up blue...

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Click pics to embiggen!
I'd be very happy with either of those colors but it is a little unsettling that in NO WAY are those the same colors. That is not a good way to sell guitars if you also offer a free return if not as advertised/happy.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:10 pm
by Lacking Talent
Well, I was fortunate with this Agile in that it was local to me and I was able to check it out up close and personal, but boy, yeah, I once bought an AL-3100MCC SFG online and discovered upon arrival -- an experience memorialized at the old AGF board -- that its supposed "Sea Foam Green" finish was much more like "Dollar Margaritas," if you know what I mean; and, sure, some folks might like that color, but I'm not among their number.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:41 pm
by Buddy
She's beautiful! Congrats!

I ordered an oceanburst AL3100MCC a couple years ago that turned out to be just about teal green. It's still a beautiful instrument, and plays GREAT, but it didn't look anything like the picture, which was kind of a sky blue burst at the time. I don't know if he is still using the same picture or not.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:48 pm
by Lacking Talent
Let's see it!

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:57 pm
by Tiga
Congratulations on a great guitar. Love some oceanburst myself...
Agile 3100.jpg

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:03 pm
by Buddy
The maple neck looks so nice!

I'll get pics of my oceanbursts up soon. Some real beauties in this thread!

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:10 pm
by uglyvw
Congrats on a great score. Good old Rondo and their infamous picture quality. I dig the green tint a little better myself.

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:01 pm
by andrewsrea
I just saw this. HNGD, [mention]Lacking Talent[/mention] !

That Oceanburst is classy!

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:02 pm
by nomadh
nomadh wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:11 pm
Lacking Talent wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:45 pm Got hold of this yesterday!

Image

It's a one owner, still mint AGILE AL-3010SE OCEANBURST FLAME DAMN WIDE (the model can be seen advertised on the Rondo site at https://www.rondomusic.com/Agile_AL-301 ... lm_DM.html).

A few of the specs as measured on my example are a bit different from those published, so I'm listing them here for any that might find those small variances to be of interest...

Overall length: 40"
Scale length: 24-3/4"
Body thickness at the edge: 1-15/16"
Width at the upper bout: 9-1/4"
Width at the lower bout: 13-5/16"
Neck taper/thickness at the 1st fret: 3/4" (19.5 mm)
Neck taper/thickness at the 12th fret: 7/8" (21.5 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the nut: 1/4" (7.5 mm)
Overall string spacing at the nut: 1-9/16" (39.7 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the bridge: 3/8" (10 mm)
Overall string spacing at the bridge: 2" (52.5 mm)
Width of the neck at the nut: 1-7/8" (47 mm)
Width of the neck at the 12th fret: 2-1/8" (54 mm)
Width of the neck at the 21st fret: 2-3/16" (56 mm)
Neck radius: 13.7" (350 mm)
Weight: 9.3 pounds

It's an MIK originally purchased just a few months ago, and was built with a center-seamed 2 piece body (that even has some flame in the mahogany back), and what I'm pretty sure is a 3 piece (!) neck. It's solid as a rock, and my heaviest guitar. There may be a maple cap beneath the flamed top veneer; I saw a horizontal seam around the upper portion of both pickup cavities' interior, but did not want to scrape away the shielding paint to see more -- no such seam or join, however, can be seen below the binding anywhere around the perimeter of the body, so maybe not. The seller fitted those knurled Telecaster-style knobs, and I think I'll keep 'em on (for the moment)!

Lucky for me, this baby's a got a lot of Seafoam Green in it (which I love), unlike the stock pic of the model, which photographed as straight up blue...

Image

Click pics to embiggen!
I'd be very happy with either of those colors but it is a little unsettling that in NO WAY are those the same colors. That is not a good way to sell guitars if you also offer a free return if not as advertised/happy.
The color difference for the same name is amazing. And I'm classified as color blind

Re: My first NGD here (Agile content)!

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:22 pm
by slowhand84
nomadh wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:11 pm
Lacking Talent wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:45 pm Got hold of this yesterday!

Image

It's a one owner, still mint AGILE AL-3010SE OCEANBURST FLAME DAMN WIDE (the model can be seen advertised on the Rondo site at https://www.rondomusic.com/Agile_AL-301 ... lm_DM.html).

A few of the specs as measured on my example are a bit different from those published, so I'm listing them here for any that might find those small variances to be of interest...

Overall length: 40"
Scale length: 24-3/4"
Body thickness at the edge: 1-15/16"
Width at the upper bout: 9-1/4"
Width at the lower bout: 13-5/16"
Neck taper/thickness at the 1st fret: 3/4" (19.5 mm)
Neck taper/thickness at the 12th fret: 7/8" (21.5 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the nut: 1/4" (7.5 mm)
Overall string spacing at the nut: 1-9/16" (39.7 mm)
Spacing between the strings at the bridge: 3/8" (10 mm)
Overall string spacing at the bridge: 2" (52.5 mm)
Width of the neck at the nut: 1-7/8" (47 mm)
Width of the neck at the 12th fret: 2-1/8" (54 mm)
Width of the neck at the 21st fret: 2-3/16" (56 mm)
Neck radius: 13.7" (350 mm)
Weight: 9.3 pounds

It's an MIK originally purchased just a few months ago, and was built with a center-seamed 2 piece body (that even has some flame in the mahogany back), and what I'm pretty sure is a 3 piece (!) neck. It's solid as a rock, and my heaviest guitar. There may be a maple cap beneath the flamed top veneer; I saw a horizontal seam around the upper portion of both pickup cavities' interior, but did not want to scrape away the shielding paint to see more -- no such seam or join, however, can be seen below the binding anywhere around the perimeter of the body, so maybe not. The seller fitted those knurled Telecaster-style knobs, and I think I'll keep 'em on (for the moment)!

Lucky for me, this baby's a got a lot of Seafoam Green in it (which I love), unlike the stock pic of the model, which photographed as straight up blue...

Image

Click pics to embiggen!
I'd be very happy with either of those colors but it is a little unsettling that in NO WAY are those the same colors. That is not a good way to sell guitars if you also offer a free return if not as advertised/happy.
The one [mention]Lacking Talent[/mention] got is not the one he linked to above, but this one: https://www.rondomusic.com/AL3010SEocea ... lame1.html

Rondo had separate listings for the guitars despite both listing the same finish "name"...so no one was really misled or expected one color and got a totally different one far as I can see. When you ordered that guitar, you got that finish. Kurt is pretty known for goofs in descriptions :).