Crazy or not, I just bought another brand new SX Liquid with the exact configuration as one I already have. It's an alder body Candy Apple Red 3 P90 stop tail. I already have that guitar and I like it a lot. In fact, I have another exactly like it, except in Lake Placid Blue, and I like it almost as much (the red just pops a bit more). I paid $200 each for those, and they were steals at that price. But why get another?
I also have a 3rd Liquid, but it's dual humbucker, so a completely different beast. It doesn't count in this conversation. But the blue and red P90 Liquids have had this argument in my head for a while. Which one gets modded, and which stays original? If I closed my eyes, I could not tell them apart by feel or sound. They play exactly the same to my senses. I know that should boil down to "just pick one", but I couldn't. I like the red more only because it's red, I know, silly.
I was minding my own business scrolling Reverb and saw Kurt had dropped the price to $165. "That's just insane" I thought. "Maybe I just overestimate their worth". So I spent a couple hours playing the CAR Liquid I already have, and just loved it. And it brought back the "which one to mod" conundrum, which added a new one - should I consider yet another Liquid to resolve the mod question?
So I gave it some thought. Every time I see a used Liquid, the seller is asking far more than that guitar ever went for new. That doesn't mean they're getting $300 for one, but that might happen at times. I even see GC doing that, despite competing with new listings from Rondo. In the last month, I saw GC list several Liquids for $300, and they're now gone. So I realized if the model ever disappeared from the market, the appreciation for it would only rise. And maybe grabbing another brand new one for $165 is just taking advantage of a steal.
Then I went to the SX site (yes, they have one). They don't even list the Liquid there, so maybe Liquid is a Rondo exclusive. If Kurt stops selling them, they might all dry up. I know I can't find a lefty SJM anywhere, and when I have seen them, the price was very high and they were beaten up badly.
So I thought "If I did mod one right away, what would its mods be?". I think a mint green pick guard would look great on that candy apple red. I prefer two P90s instead of 3, or better yet, 2 tappable P100s, which I already have in a box waiting for a mod. I'd go with a Gibby style 3-way switch instead of the blade. I'd give each pickup its own volume. And finally, I'd put a Duesenberg Les Trem II on it.
Well, that picture in my head made me go press "Buy now".
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:43 am
by uwmcscott
Happy Incoming NGD. Nothing wrong with a little irrational Rondo GAS from time to time, that's kind of what helped found AGF back in the day
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:12 pm
by dabbler
What @uwmscott said. And variety is a wonderful thing!
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:54 pm
by sabasgr68
BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:30 am
Crazy or not, I just bought another brand new SX Liquid with the exact configuration as one I already have. It's an alder body Candy Apple Red 3 P90 stop tail. I already have that guitar and I like it a lot. In fact, I have another exactly like it, except in Lake Placid Blue, and I like it almost as much (the red just pops a bit more). I paid $200 each for those, and they were steals at that price. But why get another?
I also have a 3rd Liquid, but it's dual humbucker, so a completely different beast. It doesn't count in this conversation. But the blue and red P90 Liquids have had this argument in my head for a while. Which one gets modded, and which stays original? If I closed my eyes, I could not tell them apart by feel or sound. They play exactly the same to my senses. I know that should boil down to "just pick one", but I couldn't. I like the red more only because it's red, I know, silly.
I was minding my own business scrolling Reverb and saw Kurt had dropped the price to $165. "That's just insane" I thought. "Maybe I just overestimate their worth". So I spent a couple hours playing the CAR Liquid I already have, and just loved it. And it brought back the "which one to mod" conundrum, which added a new one - should I consider yet another Liquid to resolve the mod question?
So I gave it some thought. Every time I see a used Liquid, the seller is asking far more than that guitar ever went for new. That doesn't mean they're getting $300 for one, but that might happen at times. I even see GC doing that, despite competing with new listings from Rondo. In the last month, I saw GC list several Liquids for $300, and they're now gone. So I realized if the model ever disappeared from the market, the appreciation for it would only rise. And maybe grabbing another brand new one for $165 is just taking advantage of a steal.
Then I went to the SX site (yes, they have one). They don't even list the Liquid there, so maybe Liquid is a Rondo exclusive. If Kurt stops selling them, they might all dry up. I know I can't find a lefty SJM anywhere, and when I have seen them, the price was very high and they were beaten up badly.
So I thought "If I did mod one right away, what would its mods be?". I think a mint green pick guard would look great on that candy apple red. I prefer two P90s instead of 3, or better yet, 2 tappable P100s, which I already have in a box waiting for a mod. I'd go with a Gibby style 3-way switch instead of the blade. I'd give each pickup its own volume. And finally, I'd put a Duesenberg Les Trem II on it.
Well, that picture in my head made me go press "Buy now".
With that reasoning in mind, it´s hard not to go the "Buy now" route...
Congrats on the new - incoming - CAR Liquid!
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:02 pm
by Partscaster
You can always put radically different pups in one, and its a different beast. Ie. mini humbuckers.
And/or eventually , if you ever thin the heard, youll have another rare Liquid to sell or give away perhaps to someone in your orbit.
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:10 am
by BatUtilityBelt
Here it is.
Just after 8:00 pm, UPS emailed a notice the guitar was delivered, left at the front door. Nope, it was not. I started an investigation online, and the site said I had to wait 15 days for the next step. Nope, not doing that.
I got in my car to go around the neighborhood looking for SX guitar shaped boxes on porches, and I saw it just up the block. Those neighbors were just getting home, and they know me, saw the package, and yup, that was it. So this time had a quick happy ending and we had a good talk about UPS and guitars. I brought it home and opened it up to find a pretty decent looking CAR Liquid. On to checking it out.
My other Candy Apple Red Liquid plays and sounds exactly like my Lake Placid Blue Liquid to me, so I expected the same from this one. Nope, not the same. The neck is very noticeably beefier than my other 2 recent Liquids. It's more like my older cream colored dual humbucker Liquid's neck. Interesting, and not bad. I actually prefer a slightly thicker neck, so that's good. Next, I hear the pickups are a bit punchier and hotter, but otherwise sound similar. I check their heights, and that's not it. Maybe they got a few more winds? Slightly stronger magnets? No clue, but they have a bit more body and I like them. If I shield the cavity around these better, I might just love them exactly as they are.
The only issue I could find is a couple of the fret ends were rough - not cut and bleed rough, just pokey. I expect at least this kind of thing at this price point, if not much more. So I took a file to all the fret ends just so they all match, and it's great. I played it for a few hours just enjoying the NGD despite already knowing the model well.
So this is an early assessment and there's time to change my mind, but based on a quick overview, it seems my older CAR Liquid will get the upgrades and this one will remain stock. I have a hard time understanding how it's this good for $165, but it's not worth trying to figure out the conspiracy behind it.
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:18 pm
by sabasgr68
BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:10 am
Here it is.
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Just after 8:00 pm, UPS emailed a notice the guitar was delivered, left at the front door. Nope, it was not. I started an investigation online, and the site said I had to wait 15 days for the next step. Nope, not doing that.
I got in my car to go around the neighborhood looking for SX guitar shaped boxes on porches, and I saw it just up the block. Those neighbors were just getting home, and they know me, saw the package, and yup, that was it. So this time had a quick happy ending and we had a good talk about UPS and guitars. I brought it home and opened it up to find a pretty decent looking CAR Liquid. On to checking it out.
My other Candy Apple Red Liquid plays and sounds exactly like my Lake Placid Blue Liquid to me, so I expected the same from this one. Nope, not the same. The neck is very noticeably beefier than my other 2 recent Liquids. It's more like my older cream colored dual humbucker Liquid's neck. Interesting, and not bad. I actually prefer a slightly thicker neck, so that's good. Next, I hear the pickups are a bit punchier and hotter, but otherwise sound similar. I check their heights, and that's not it. Maybe they got a few more winds? Slightly stronger magnets? No clue, but they have a bit more body and I like them. If I shield the cavity around these better, I might just love them exactly as they are.
The only issue I could find is a couple of the fret ends were rough - not cut and bleed rough, just pokey. I expect at least this kind of thing at this price point, if not much more. So I took a file to all the fret ends just so they all match, and it's great. I played it for a few hours just enjoying the NGD despite already knowing the model well.
So this is an early assessment and there's time to change my mind, but based on a quick overview, it seems my older CAR Liquid will get the upgrades and this one will remain stock. I have a hard time understanding how it's this good for $165, but it's not worth trying to figure out the conspiracy behind it.
Good for the Sherlock Holmes work on finding it, and great that you´re liking it that much!
You played it "for a few hours"? Well, what am I saying? If I didn´t have things to do all the time, I know I could play the whole day if I could. So, maybe "a few hours" is not enough time anyway.
Congrats! I´m glad you´re enjoying it, Bat!
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:10 pm
by tonebender
You're are not crazy in the clinical sense, LOL. Back in the day I was a die-hard Telecaster man. When I gigged I had two Teles almost identical. If I broke a string I grabbed the other. I had one sound. These days it is a little different. First I became a Les Paul man or at least a Gibson p90 man. I also think a semi fits a lot of songs better so I have both at the gigs and use them both.
Congrats on the new guitar.
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:26 am
by Partscaster
I'm hoping your's and the other address at least share similar address name or numbers.
What a goof on UPS. In my area, UPS seems the best. Perhaps it's a new driver who was hurrying too fast.
Way to be persistent.
I tend to prefer hotter p90's. Congrats.
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:13 pm
by andrewsrea
HNGD!
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:37 am
by jtcnj
Nice grab at a great price!
Great job tracking it down too.
HNGD!
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:26 pm
by BatUtilityBelt
Huh. Today Ryan (60 Cycle Hum) is doing a day-1 demo of a Liquid. Hope Kurt is ready for a small Liquid appreciation wave if it goes the way I think...
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:52 am
by jtcnj
The Liquid I had was significantly better in overall build quality than the SX strat and tele I had.
Sometimes I miss that Liquid.....
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:51 am
by idiotsdelight
BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:26 pm
Huh. Today Ryan (60 Cycle Hum) is doing a day-1 demo of a Liquid. Hope Kurt is ready for a small Liquid appreciation wave if it goes the way I think...
I regret not getting one with a Jazzmaster trem. Still own my first SX... a SJM.
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:08 pm
by nomadh
Had to search for it? When that happened to me I just figured they lied about it.
With those plans for it and at that price I call it buying in self defense. Because if you didn't it would kill you!
Re: Another CAR Liquid incoming
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:39 pm
by doc-knapp
I own a couple of Sx P90 guitars, and the strange thing is I love the cheap Sx P90 pickup tone and prefer it to much, much more expensive pickups. I'll put it simply: The looks of the Liquid are what bring you to her, but the sound is what keeps you coming back.