NGD SX Thinline Strat/ Alder
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:08 pm
SX Thinlne strat has arrived.
The body looks beautiful. Looks same size and finish quality as my Squire CV60’s bodies. Looks like real Alder. Had the US Flag sticker as proof.
Has the standard strat body contours front and back. Is 1-3/4” thick. The hollow rout is only about 2.25” by 7”. That seems smaller than I had expected/hoped? I want the semi-hollow to warm the highs a bit for a specific set of beautiful but bright pickups. If the SX thinline's effect is to tame some brightness, I will be satisfied. It is a 2 piece body with the seam near the F-clef. In the body rout walls I can see the continuous swoop of the grain within the other 2/3rds of the body. It looks like alder grain similar to my cv60’s. I recently spent time tapping on 3 CVstrat bodies, and to my memory, this one sounds very similar. Everything about this body seems as good as my CV50&60’s. The neck is a maple cap neck. Even with a skunk stripe, it is still a separate maple fretboard glued on top of the maple neck. I consider this a pleasant oddity as they are a rarer style of maple neck construction common from the few years of later 60's Fender offerings and coinciding with Hendrix’s use of maple necks. (I like most things Hendrixy) The maple neck grain at both ends is straight up and down, like quarter sawn. The maple cap is pretty much flat sawn. I will use another neck w/ RW fretboard for this project, but this stock neck is a good deal for an inexpensive import guitar, IMO.
Tuners seem okay. Probably 14/1. I like vintage tuners cause they’re easy for me to take strings off, and put back on for guitar work.
Stock Pickups seem strong and bright. They are ceramic, with bar magnet and steel pole pieces.
Strings are thick, not rusty. Came out of box close to in-tune, Intonation seemed good but I didn’t check with a tuner.
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So, I bought this SX Thinline to take a chance to give a set of Klein 59 pickups a better sound in a new body, as the pickups are really open, punchy, beautiful, but just too bright in the current body and I dont like just turning down the tone very much, as I think I hear a loss of openness when I do. I use .1uf caps in most Strats. Still this set of pups would be nice to hear with all its open glory in a warmer voice.
I spent some of last night, and all day today, working with this project. Stripped Thinline all into parts in a bag for re-assembly and sale should I not want to keep it.
Put an Allparts 70's headstock 7.25 rosewood neck on it. Did end up needing a neck shim in pocket to tilt neck back, to make sense with saddle heights. Pocket was a hair deep. Also used a side shim on bass side as deep pocket was also a hair wider than fender spec and I needed to balance my fretboard side to side spacing as the 2-7/32 bridge I'm using would need it to be perfect to avoid string slip-off. So I made it perfect.
I did have to Dremel out some of the trem cavity back-underside of top, where full sized block hit. General cavity was large enough, but back rim contact prevented full swing within cavity. Took a few minutes with dremel. Good opportunity to f-up the guitar bridge area, though. I did OK.
Switching bridge to Fender 2-7/32 meant plugging and re-drilling 2 outside-most of the 6 screw holes.
Also had an old KGC brass trem block for vintage size, and put it in, as that should help warm/darken the tone.
Turns out, it was too much. It was as "warm' as I'ld ever want, but also had a nasally aspect,..Was it the thin line body? Was it the brass block?
So I dug it all apart again and put stock vintage Fender bridges' full size zinc block back on. I assume its zinc as its silvery and not magnetic. I will say, though, that ever since I bought a Callaham steel block years ago, I have opted for zinc over steel.The Callaham was just too bright for my guitars. Anyhow, the stock block went back in.
And, so,....... Im back to everything from the old guitar's bright set up, transferred onto the Thinline body.
The pups are only 5.8-5.9 -ish, A5, formvar, scatter wound by Klein.
Turns out, the thinline body tone is warmer than in the other alder body, more mids, less bright highs, nicely defined lows. Its got good hair. It had some before. Now its got more. I love it. Good big sound, hairy, still with open chime but in a warmer voice. This was a successful project.
The body looks beautiful. Looks same size and finish quality as my Squire CV60’s bodies. Looks like real Alder. Had the US Flag sticker as proof.
Has the standard strat body contours front and back. Is 1-3/4” thick. The hollow rout is only about 2.25” by 7”. That seems smaller than I had expected/hoped? I want the semi-hollow to warm the highs a bit for a specific set of beautiful but bright pickups. If the SX thinline's effect is to tame some brightness, I will be satisfied. It is a 2 piece body with the seam near the F-clef. In the body rout walls I can see the continuous swoop of the grain within the other 2/3rds of the body. It looks like alder grain similar to my cv60’s. I recently spent time tapping on 3 CVstrat bodies, and to my memory, this one sounds very similar. Everything about this body seems as good as my CV50&60’s. The neck is a maple cap neck. Even with a skunk stripe, it is still a separate maple fretboard glued on top of the maple neck. I consider this a pleasant oddity as they are a rarer style of maple neck construction common from the few years of later 60's Fender offerings and coinciding with Hendrix’s use of maple necks. (I like most things Hendrixy) The maple neck grain at both ends is straight up and down, like quarter sawn. The maple cap is pretty much flat sawn. I will use another neck w/ RW fretboard for this project, but this stock neck is a good deal for an inexpensive import guitar, IMO.
Tuners seem okay. Probably 14/1. I like vintage tuners cause they’re easy for me to take strings off, and put back on for guitar work.
Stock Pickups seem strong and bright. They are ceramic, with bar magnet and steel pole pieces.
Strings are thick, not rusty. Came out of box close to in-tune, Intonation seemed good but I didn’t check with a tuner.
---------------
So, I bought this SX Thinline to take a chance to give a set of Klein 59 pickups a better sound in a new body, as the pickups are really open, punchy, beautiful, but just too bright in the current body and I dont like just turning down the tone very much, as I think I hear a loss of openness when I do. I use .1uf caps in most Strats. Still this set of pups would be nice to hear with all its open glory in a warmer voice.
I spent some of last night, and all day today, working with this project. Stripped Thinline all into parts in a bag for re-assembly and sale should I not want to keep it.
Put an Allparts 70's headstock 7.25 rosewood neck on it. Did end up needing a neck shim in pocket to tilt neck back, to make sense with saddle heights. Pocket was a hair deep. Also used a side shim on bass side as deep pocket was also a hair wider than fender spec and I needed to balance my fretboard side to side spacing as the 2-7/32 bridge I'm using would need it to be perfect to avoid string slip-off. So I made it perfect.
I did have to Dremel out some of the trem cavity back-underside of top, where full sized block hit. General cavity was large enough, but back rim contact prevented full swing within cavity. Took a few minutes with dremel. Good opportunity to f-up the guitar bridge area, though. I did OK.
Switching bridge to Fender 2-7/32 meant plugging and re-drilling 2 outside-most of the 6 screw holes.
Also had an old KGC brass trem block for vintage size, and put it in, as that should help warm/darken the tone.
Turns out, it was too much. It was as "warm' as I'ld ever want, but also had a nasally aspect,..Was it the thin line body? Was it the brass block?
So I dug it all apart again and put stock vintage Fender bridges' full size zinc block back on. I assume its zinc as its silvery and not magnetic. I will say, though, that ever since I bought a Callaham steel block years ago, I have opted for zinc over steel.The Callaham was just too bright for my guitars. Anyhow, the stock block went back in.
And, so,....... Im back to everything from the old guitar's bright set up, transferred onto the Thinline body.
The pups are only 5.8-5.9 -ish, A5, formvar, scatter wound by Klein.
Turns out, the thinline body tone is warmer than in the other alder body, more mids, less bright highs, nicely defined lows. Its got good hair. It had some before. Now its got more. I love it. Good big sound, hairy, still with open chime but in a warmer voice. This was a successful project.