Kurt selling Agile brand?

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Did I catch a glimpse of this on the old board? Anyone know why?
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Just my guess but there is a lot more competition today than when he began selling cheap guitars on the internet.
He operated on slim profit margins, more competition = slimmer margins.
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He is probably getting too old for our crap.
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ID10t wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:10 pm Being rebranded as MOMO
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And endorsed by Davie Gilmoure! :)
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Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
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tobijohn wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
Actually, I'm surprised he'd let go of Agile b4 SX. Agile, is his own brand allowing him to make whatever he feels the market is clamoring for unlike SX which is not totally under his control. Plus, being a higher priced guitar, probably has more profit/piece than SX models. I mean, I'm sure he knows what he's doing,you don't stay around like he has being stupid... but I'm still surprised.
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tobijohn wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
Which is why TJ and I and Nick in the States will enter into discussions with Kurt to buy Agile, right TJ? :D
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dabbler wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:46 pm
tobijohn wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
Actually, I'm surprised he'd let go of Agile b4 SX. Agile, is his own brand allowing him to make whatever he feels the market is clamoring for unlike SX which is not totally under his control. Plus, being a higher priced guitar, probably has more profit/piece than SX models. I mean, I'm sure he knows what he's doing,you don't stay around like he has being stupid... but I'm still surprised.
Anyone know what he wants for the brand?
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Bubba Zanetti wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 pm
tobijohn wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
Which is why TJ and I and Nick in the States will enter into discussions with Kurt to buy Agile, right TJ? :D
We discussed it but decided we didn't want to get into a bidding war with that acquisitions juggernaut, MOMO Boards...
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I don't know, if we can pull off a new forum in a few days, why can't we take over a guitar brand? that's in all seriousness. if someone is scratching their head that has posted here is thinking the same thing, i'd be willing to help. not looking for a business venture, but a labor of love. not looking to lose $ either lol! feel free to pm me. i wouldn't be able to do it alone, but i can possibly lead or be very active.
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If anyone has discussed pricing and terms with Kurt please PM me. Otherwise I may reach out to him.
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Someone from AGF buying Agile....?

Why not?? With the way 2020 is going I'm ready to believe anything...
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stranger things have happened. did ya'll think you'd be locked up in your houses for the past 10 weeks or so or the forum would be hijacked just to get rebuilt in a couple of days, better than ever?
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Houblues wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:39 am Like a band roadie or fan becoming a member.
The Tommy Thayer effect.
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He's been floating that idea for years I think, there was more than one thread on the old forum about it. It's certainly got some brand recognition over the flood of other knockoffs that have come out over the years.
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dabbler wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:46 pm
tobijohn wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
Actually, I'm surprised he'd let go of Agile b4 SX. Agile, is his own brand allowing him to make whatever he feels the market is clamoring for unlike SX which is not totally under his control. Plus, being a higher priced guitar, probably has more profit/piece than SX models. I mean, I'm sure he knows what he's doing,you don't stay around like he has being stupid... but I'm still surprised.
Yes, if we do make trade with china harder a premier korean direct sales brand could be sitting pretty and SX could be tariffed out of existance.
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dabbler wrote:
tobijohn wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
Actually, I'm surprised he'd let go of Agile b4 SX. Agile, is his own brand allowing him to make whatever he feels the market is clamoring for unlike SX which is not totally under his control. Plus, being a higher priced guitar, probably has more profit/piece than SX models. I mean, I'm sure he knows what he's doing,you don't stay around like he has being stupid... but I'm still surprised.
SX isn't owned by Kurt, he just sells a small part of their catalog.



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honyock wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:14 pm
dabbler wrote:
tobijohn wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm Just the Agile brand is for sale, he will be keeping Rondo and continue to carry everything else...
Actually, I'm surprised he'd let go of Agile b4 SX. Agile, is his own brand allowing him to make whatever he feels the market is clamoring for unlike SX which is not totally under his control. Plus, being a higher priced guitar, probably has more profit/piece than SX models. I mean, I'm sure he knows what he's doing,you don't stay around like he has being stupid... but I'm still surprised.
SX isn't owned by Kurt, he just sells a small part of their catalog.



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Correct. I guess I should have said that I'm surprised he's selling the label that he controls vice dropping the label that he distributes... for the reasons I stated.
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Well it could be a return on time invested vs net profit. if the headaches on the sx line are low vs net and high headaches on the Agile why not sell? It can't be easy dealing with the different korean manufacturers and lets face it the Viet and Indonesian for the future. Then trying to keep us old farts buying while bringing in new money.
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He maybe can’t sell the SX line he doesn’t own but can sell the Agile one he does?
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He can also likely sell the Agile line... then shortly thereafter increase the amount of SX guitars he imports. I'd imagine he avoids ones now that step on his Agile toes.

If he just distributes he doesn't have to play the factory hunt, argument etc game.
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