Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:45 pm
by mozz
Doesn't look to hard to actually make, out of plastic or aluminum.
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:48 pm
by TheIrritableLuthier
Plastic is better, aluminum darkens the tone. I speak from experience. Aluminum, while not magnetic, is conductive, and appears to sap away the high end from filtertrons, which is kinda the point of filtertrons.
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:39 pm
by Gear_Junky
mozz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:45 pm
Doesn't look to hard to actually make, out of plastic or aluminum.
True, if you have the tapping tools, which I don't
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:45 pm
by Gear_Junky
TheIrritableLuthier wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:48 pm
Plastic is better, aluminum darkens the tone. I speak from experience. Aluminum, while not magnetic, is conductive, and appears to sap away the high end from filtertrons, which is kinda the point of filtertrons.
I didn't think of that and didn't know that. Thank you for mentioning. Unfortunately in my case I likely still have to do it, in my WNO-630 I can't raise the neck pickup close to the strings, it's a good half inch away. Might be back to the drawing board. What if I isolate the bar from the baseplate with electrical tape?
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:46 pm
by Gear_Junky
FWIW, they're not that expensive, it's their shipping. But I may be placing an order anyway. I'm just trying to line everything up
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:33 am
by mozz
Aluminium will affect a magnetic field? Maybe Eddy currents?
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:54 am
by mickey
mozz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:33 am
Aluminium will affect a magnetic field? Maybe Eddy currents?
Duane???
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
TheIrritableLuthier wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:48 pm
Plastic is better, aluminum darkens the tone. I speak from experience. Aluminum, while not magnetic, is conductive, and appears to sap away the high end from filtertrons, which is kinda the point of filtertrons.
I didn't think of that and didn't know that. Thank you for mentioning. Unfortunately in my case I likely still have to do it, in my WNO-630 I can't raise the neck pickup close to the strings, it's a good half inch away. Might be back to the drawing board. What if I isolate the bar from the baseplate with electrical tape?
Its certainly worth a try, especially if this is your best option for mounting the pickups. I made my own in the past, both aluminum and plastic, but if you aren't equipped for DIY, I'd go with these and try them. Just keep in mind if you find things darker than you'd like, those bars could be the culprit.
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:45 pm
by Gear_Junky
TheIrritableLuthier wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Its certainly worth a try, especially if this is your best option for mounting the pickups. I made my own in the past, both aluminum and plastic, but if you aren't equipped for DIY, I'd go with these and try them. Just keep in mind if you find things darker than you'd like, those bars could be the culprit.
so any thoughts on electrically isolating them from the baseplate?
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
TheIrritableLuthier wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Its certainly worth a try, especially if this is your best option for mounting the pickups. I made my own in the past, both aluminum and plastic, but if you aren't equipped for DIY, I'd go with these and try them. Just keep in mind if you find things darker than you'd like, those bars could be the culprit.
so any thoughts on electrically isolating them from the baseplate?
None. Electronics aren't my forté.
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:39 pm
by OMB
There is a guy over at Gretsch Talk that makes these out of plastic but I don't have the energy for a search right now.
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:28 pm
by idiotsdelight
I bought mine from Philadelphia Luthier Tools during a holiday sale. They were plenty affordable during the sale.
I have a tap/die set from Harbor Freight as well. I even went and bought some exact looking (to your GFS image) packaged aluminum pieces from Home Depot for a couple dollars. That was going to be my first option. You could experiment on plastic or aluminium if you had the tap & die. Make a mistake, toss it & try again.
Re: Does anyone have 1 or 2 of these - GFS GF'Tron Adapter Plate
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:01 pm
by Gear_Junky
idiotsdelight wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:28 pm
I bought mine from Philadelphia Luthier Tools during a holiday sale. They were plenty affordable during the sale.
I have a tap/die set from Harbor Freight as well. I even went and bought some exact looking (to your GFS image) packaged aluminum pieces from Home Depot for a couple dollars. That was going to be my first option. You could experiment on plastic or aluminium if you had the tap & die. Make a mistake, toss it & try again.
Thank you. Did you find the right thread for those filtertron screws? I guess I'm concerned that plastic will not last, unless it's a particularly rigid type of polymer. Maybe with washers... or even just nuts+washers, so then only need drilled holes in the plastic. What plastic material do y'all recommend?
(I have those 2 GFS brackets in my basket as I may be ordering pickups, etc. I just thought I'd explore before proceeding).
