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Well the long, horrible wait is finally over! :lol:

This arrived yesterday afternoon, but I wanted to take some time to get well acquainted with it before broadcasting my opinion.
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I was actually pretty excited to get this bass, for such cheapie, and I have to say I'm fairly impressed. Nobody would confuse this with an American Fender, but it wouldn't be the build quality that gives it away. This thing is solid! Check out this neck pocket:
HB neck joint 1.JPG
That's pretty tight!
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As has been accurately reported, it's a frickin' LOAD. Weighs in at 12.5 lbs! Yikes! This is the heaviest guitar I've ever owned! I may have to sharpen my forstner bits and affect some weight relief to this thing. On the upside, I played it standing up for about an hour and I didn't get any muscle spasms, so that's a good thing. :) But if I ever gig again, I think I'll leave this thing at home. Harley Benton should do what SX does with their ash basses and MAKE THE BODIES THINNER! I think my ash Ursa 2 Hum is only 1.5" thick and I don't care... I don't get all bent about body thickness if it makes a heavy guitar lighter.

Other than the weight, that's really my only complaint about this bass. The finish is immaculate... I don't see any slop, or tool marks.... The fretwork is just about perfect. No sharp ends, and no high, uneven, or otherwise wonky frets. I was able to set it up with super-low action, and there's zero fret buzz, or dead notes.

The only thing that really gives this away at first glance as an inexpensive instrument is the grade of the wood. It's not the most beautiful ash body I've ever seen, but it's not off-putting, either... The grain is pretty unremarkable (straight and narrow across most of the body), and there are dark streaks and other irregularities (more noticeable in real life than in these pics), but by no means would I call it unattractive... just not super-gorgeous AAAA grade wood. The body is 3 pieces, but I had a real hard time finding the second join (I had to look at the end grain to find it).

The bridge is actually really good. The plate is heavy gauge and it has big brass saddles. I see no need to replace it. I was going to put a Gotoh 201 on it, but I doubt it would be an improvement, and it'll probably add a few grams to an already over-weight bass.
HB body.JPG
The neck has a satin finish all over, including the fretboard, and the "inlays" are painted (screen printed?) on. That doesn't bother me... SX, Squier, even Fender do the same thing. I think they would be stupid not to do that. In review videos, people didn't seem to know what to make of the neck profile. It's just a normal, 'C'. Not a "slim C" or a "thin C", just a normal, full, C profile. It's perfectly comfortable. I have a vintage spec Jazz Bass neck on my '57 RI P-Bass, and that neck is chunky (but still comfortable). This neck is just not super-thin, like a lot of bassists seem to think they need these days. I have to admit, I got all caught up in that myself at one time, and a thin-profile neck was a priority for me, until I realized that I didn't play any better, or faster on a thin neck than I did on a regular (or slightly chunky) C profile. I just can't stand thick, U-shaped, or '50s era profiles.

Some people complain about the headstock shape too.. In one review, they complained about how big the headstock is. I actually like this shape, and It's no bigger than a Fender headstock.

The tuners are also really good. They feel better than the Fender tuners I put on the fretless. Nice and smooth... And solid too. They don't feel loose, or janky. So like with the bridge, I'll keep the tuners where they are and put the Wilkinsons on something else.

This is an historic moment... I've never owned an import guitar that didn't need any hardware upgrades! :shock:
HB headstock.JPG
I like their new logo too... It looks like it belongs on a guitar. Like somebody took the trouble to design it, instead of just picking out a random, stupid font in Adobe Illustrator (Ok, yeah, that's how I got my logo... But it wasn't random... and it's a cool font! :lol: ). The graphics are screen printed on the headstock. I can't tell if it's under the poly, or printed on top of it. Same with the "inlays". I'm wondering if the strings will wear through them over time. Even if they sprayed clear on top, it's a pretty thin coat of satin poly. I have given some thought to spraying a few more coats on the fretboard.

Ok, so what does it play/sound like?

This bass definitely received a set-up before it was shipped out. The action was a little high for me, but I like low action. The strings were set to a reasonable "median" height. I do the same thing when setting up a guitar/bass for sale when I don't know the preferences of the buyer. They also set the intonation, but all the strings were a little flat at the 12th fret. I suspect they checked the intonation with the bass lying on a bench. You should always check the intonation in playing position, because gravity will assist the pickups' pull on the strings and make them a little sharp.

I got the action down pretty damn low, without any excessive fret buzz, and there was only a minimal amount of relief in the neck, so no need to adjust the truss rod. After correcting the intonation, I plugged her in... Straight into the amp... No effects, no compression... All my biases fully intact.... And I gotta be honest, all the wild hype I heard and read about how good these basses sound is completely deserved... This bass sounds really good! And I don't even mean "for the money".... The fact that this bass only cost $152 keeps slipping my mind!

The E and A strings sound like a frickin' piano! An angry piano... It sounds the way a Jazz Bass is supposed to sound, with all the growl and clarity that a Jazz Bass is supposed to have. These pickups don't have the same mid-range "grunt" that the pickups in my #1 have, but they sound legit as hell. If my old MIM Jazz sounded like this, I'd still own it!

I'm having a hard time trying to comprehend this bass... I can barely believe it actually exists! I have no idea how they can build this bass to these standards and make a profit selling it for $152... Literally nothing on this instrument needs to be replaced. And I don't mean it's "decent", or "it'll get you by", or "good enough for the money". I mean, the hardware and pickups are actually of very good quality. The build tolerances are better than an American Standard Jazz I used to own (bloody oath! you could stick a credit card in the neck pocket!). The craftsmanship is impeccable... I can't find any tool marks, imperfection, or signs of rough, or hurried workmanship.

The only cons I can think of are:

It's heavy as fuck... The wood grain is kinda "meh"... and I wish they sprayed more poly on the fretboard.

Other than that, this is a solid instrument. I don't even know where to place it in the hierarchy. They're slightly higher build quality than SX, Squier and MIMs (the old "Standards" I mean. I have no idea how the "Player" series is). About equal to SX and Classic Vibes in terms of hardware (SX hardware has stepped up in quality in recent years). The pickups are about on par with CVs that I've played in the last year or so, but miles better than SX and MIM.

I'd say it's like a heavy-ass Mexican Standard with better pickups and hardware, but in some ways it's on par, or maybe a little better than an American Standard. You could take this bass out of the box, tune it up, and go straight into a recording session, and nobody would bat an eye.

Sounds good, plays good, is good.

If you were thinking about getting a CV Jazz bass, or even a low to mid-tier Fender, you'd be insane not to buy one of these instead... Just for the love of Pete, get the sunburst one made of alder! :lol:
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Excellent!

So with the new shipping, how long did it take?
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ILuvTeles wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:33 pm Excellent!

So with the new shipping, how long did it take?
Technically, 4 business days. I ordered it late last Friday, but it didn't ship out until Monday, and I received it on Thursday.
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Mossman wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:28 pm Well the long, horrible wait is finally over! :lol:

This arrived yesterday afternoon, but I wanted to take some time to get well acquainted with it before broadcasting my opinion.

HB full angle.JPG

I was actually pretty excited to get this bass, for such cheapie, and I have to say I'm fairly impressed. Nobody would confuse this with an American Fender, but it wouldn't be the build quality that gives it away. This thing is solid! Check out this neck pocket:

HB neck joint 1.JPG

That's pretty tight!

HB neck joint 2.JPG

As has been accurately reported, it's a frickin' LOAD. Weighs in at 12.5 lbs! Yikes! This is the heaviest guitar I've ever owned! I may have to sharpen my forstner bits and affect some weight relief to this thing. On the upside, I played it standing up for about an hour and I didn't get any muscle spasms, so that's a good thing. :) But if I ever gig again, I think I'll leave this thing at home. Harley Benton should do what SX does with their ash basses and MAKE THE BODIES THINNER! I think my ash Ursa 2 Hum is only 1.5" thick and I don't care... I don't get all bent about body thickness if it makes a heavy guitar lighter.

Other than the weight, that's really my only complaint about this bass. The finish is immaculate... I don't see any slop, or tool marks.... The fretwork is just about perfect. No sharp ends, and no high, uneven, or otherwise wonky frets. I was able to set it up with super-low action, and there's zero fret buzz, or dead notes.

The only thing that really gives this away at first glance as an inexpensive instrument is the grade of the wood. It's not the most beautiful ash body I've ever seen, but it's not off-putting, either... The grain is pretty unremarkable (straight and narrow across most of the body), and there are dark streaks and other irregularities (more noticeable in real life than in these pics), but by no means would I call it unattractive... just not super-gorgeous AAAA grade wood. The body is 3 pieces, but I had a real hard time finding the second join (I had to look at the end grain to find it).

The bridge is actually really good. The plate is heavy gauge and it has big brass saddles. I see no need to replace it. I was going to put a Gotoh 201 on it, but I doubt it would be an improvement, and it'll probably add a few grams to an already over-weight bass.

HB body.JPG

The neck has a satin finish all over, including the fretboard, and the "inlays" are painted (screen printed?) on. That doesn't bother me... SX, Squier, even Fender do the same thing. I think they would be stupid not to do that. In review videos, people didn't seem to know what to make of the neck profile. It's just a normal, 'C'. Not a "slim C" or a "thin C", just a normal, full, C profile. It's perfectly comfortable. I have a vintage spec Jazz Bass neck on my '57 RI P-Bass, and that neck is chunky (but still comfortable). This neck is just not super-thin, like a lot of bassists seem to think they need these days. I have to admit, I got all caught up in that myself at one time, and a thin-profile neck was a priority for me, until I realized that I didn't play any better, or faster on a thin neck than I did on a regular (or slightly chunky) C profile. I just can't stand thick, U-shaped, or '50s era profiles.

Some people complain about the headstock shape too.. In one review, they complained about how big the headstock is. I actually like this shape, and It's no bigger than a Fender headstock.

The tuners are also really good. They feel better than the Fender tuners I put on the fretless. Nice and smooth... And solid too. They don't feel loose, or janky. So like with the bridge, I'll keep the tuners where they are and put the Wilkinsons on something else.

This is an historic moment... I've never owned an import guitar that didn't need any hardware upgrades! :shock:

HB headstock.JPG

I like their new logo too... It looks like it belongs on a guitar. Like somebody took the trouble to design it, instead of just picking out a random, stupid font in Adobe Illustrator (Ok, yeah, that's how I got my logo... But it wasn't random... and it's a cool font! :lol: ). The graphics are screen printed on the headstock. I can't tell if it's under the poly, or printed on top of it. Same with the "inlays". I'm wondering if the strings will wear through them over time. Even if they sprayed clear on top, it's a pretty thin coat of satin poly. I have given some thought to spraying a few more coats on the fretboard.

Ok, so what does it play/sound like?

This bass definitely received a set-up before it was shipped out. The action was a little high for me, but I like low action. The strings were set to a reasonable "median" height. I do the same thing when setting up a guitar/bass for sale when I don't know the preferences of the buyer. They also set the intonation, but all the strings were a little flat at the 12th fret. I suspect they checked the intonation with the bass lying on a bench. You should always check the intonation in playing position, because gravity will assist the pickups' pull on the strings and make them a little sharp.

I got the action down pretty damn low, without any excessive fret buzz, and there was only a minimal amount of relief in the neck, so no need to adjust the truss rod. After correcting the intonation, I plugged her in... Straight into the amp... No effects, no compression... All my biases fully intact.... And I gotta be honest, all the wild hype I heard and read about how good these basses sound is completely deserved... This bass sounds really good! And I don't even mean "for the money".... The fact that this bass only cost $152 keeps slipping my mind!

The E and A strings sound like a frickin' piano! An angry piano... It sounds the way a Jazz Bass is supposed to sound, with all the growl and clarity that a Jazz Bass is supposed to have. These pickups don't have the same mid-range "grunt" that the pickups in my #1 have, but they sound legit as hell. If my old MIM Jazz sounded like this, I'd still own it!

I'm having a hard time trying to comprehend this bass... I can barely believe it actually exists! I have no idea how they can build this bass to these standards and make a profit selling it for $152... Literally nothing on this instrument needs to be replaced. And I don't mean it's "decent", or "it'll get you by", or "good enough for the money". I mean, the hardware and pickups are actually of very good quality. The build tolerances are better than an American Standard Jazz I used to own (bloody oath! you could stick a credit card in the neck pocket!). The craftsmanship is impeccable... I can't find any tool marks, imperfection, or signs of rough, or hurried workmanship.

The only cons I can think of are:

It's heavy as fuck... The wood grain is kinda "meh"... and I wish they sprayed more poly on the fretboard.

Other than that, this is a solid instrument. I don't even know where to place it in the hierarchy. They're slightly higher build quality than SX, Squier and MIMs (the old "Standards" I mean. I have no idea how the "Player" series is). About equal to SX and Classic Vibes in terms of hardware (SX hardware has stepped up in quality in recent years). The pickups are about on par with CVs that I've played in the last year or so, but miles better than SX and MIM.

I'd say it's like a heavy-ass Mexican Standard with better pickups and hardware, but in some ways it's on par, or maybe a little better than an American Standard. You could take this bass out of the box, tune it up, and go straight into a recording session, and nobody would bat an eye.

Sounds good, plays good, is good.

If you were thinking about getting a CV Jazz bass, or even a low to mid-tier Fender, you'd be insane not to buy one of these instead... Just for the love of Pete, get the sunburst one made of alder! :lol:
Well dagnabbit, Ed. That's a beautiful bass to me. I like the color scheme, I like the ash, and I trust you when it comes to gauging quality of parts.

I'd almost be tempted to order one today but 12.5 lbs is a boatload. :) Interested to see what you might do with weight relief...

Congrats!! Hoping for sound clips!
Edit: Can you plug the bass in to your commodore?
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Great review [mention]Mossman[/mention]! Everything you said was basically my take on my J-75 when I purchased it several years ago. I too was astonished at what I had just bought for $130 at that time. I'd link my original NGD thread here, but we all know why I can't! (cough, cough, f*ck MOMO)

I must have got a lighter piece of ash because I don't find mine exceptionally heavy. Pretty nice grain on mine too, even with the pickguard off Jaco style.
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Really nice Boat Anchor, errrr, Bass. Looks good to me. If that dude in Australia that drove off home invaders with his Bass had used this those criminals would have been crushed to bits.

Very solid in depth review as well.
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Tim heard with price increase they are still offering 3 for 1 shipping. Maybe I should have had you get 2 and we could split the shipping. :)
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nomadh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:19 pm Tim heard with price increase they are still offering 3 for 1 shipping. Maybe I should have had you get 2 and we could split the shipping. :)
Okay well who's in Virginia that wants a Benton...

Hahaha :)
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PsychoCid wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:08 am
Interested to see what you might do with weight relief...
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PsychoCid wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:08 amCan you plug the bass in to your commodore?
Well, I have a MIDI interface for the C64:
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And one of these (Lexicon Omega with MIDI in/out):
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So I imagine so... But it'll end up sounding like a SID chip. :lol:
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toomanycats wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:55 am Great review @Mossman! Everything you said was basically my take on my J-75 when I purchased it several years ago. I too was astonished at what I had just bought for $130 at that time. I'd link my original NGD thread here, but we all know why I can't! (cough, cough, f*ck MOMO)

I must have got a lighter piece of ash because I don't find mine exceptionally heavy. Pretty nice grain on mine too, even with the pickguard off Jaco style.

hb bas.jpeg
Yeah, that looks real nice... If I didn't already have enough guitars/basses in 3TS, I would have gone for that one.

I should correct myself, too... In an earlier message I implied that the sunburst JB-75s were made of alder, but last night I discovered that they're ALL made of ash. Even the black ones... Which doesn't make much sense to me. To my mind, the reason to use ash is for the aesthetic of the grain. If you're going to paint it an opaque color, you might as well use alder, or poplar... Oh well.

I also discovered last night that Thomann has B-Stocks!

This may not be good for me... :?
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fullonshred wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 pm Really nice Boat Anchor, errrr, Bass. Looks good to me. If that dude in Australia that drove off home invaders with his Bass had used this those criminals would have been crushed to bits.

Very solid in depth review as well.
Haha... I don't think there's a man among us who could swing this thing! It'd be like trying to defend yourself with a telephone pole.
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Mossman wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:48 pm
toomanycats wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:55 am Great review @Mossman! Everything you said was basically my take on my J-75 when I purchased it several years ago. I too was astonished at what I had just bought for $130 at that time. I'd link my original NGD thread here, but we all know why I can't! (cough, cough, f*ck MOMO)

I must have got a lighter piece of ash because I don't find mine exceptionally heavy. Pretty nice grain on mine too, even with the pickguard off Jaco style.

hb bas.jpeg
Yeah, that looks real nice... If I didn't already have enough guitars/basses in 3TS, I would have gone for that one.

I should correct myself, too... In an earlier message I implied that the sunburst JB-75s were made of alder, but last night I discovered that they're ALL made of ash. Even the black ones... Which doesn't make much sense to me. To my mind, the reason to use ash is for the aesthetic of the grain. If you're going to paint it an opaque color, you might as well use alder, or poplar... Oh well.

I also discovered last night that Thomann has B-Stocks!

This may not be good for me... :?
Yeah, I discovered that after my first Thomann purchase, and most of the rest of my purchases have been b-stocks. But I think the secret is out! You gotta be quick to get one, now.
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dabbler wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:54 pm
Mossman wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:48 pm
toomanycats wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:55 am Great review @Mossman! Everything you said was basically my take on my J-75 when I purchased it several years ago. I too was astonished at what I had just bought for $130 at that time. I'd link my original NGD thread here, but we all know why I can't! (cough, cough, f*ck MOMO)

I must have got a lighter piece of ash because I don't find mine exceptionally heavy. Pretty nice grain on mine too, even with the pickguard off Jaco style.

hb bas.jpeg
Yeah, that looks real nice... If I didn't already have enough guitars/basses in 3TS, I would have gone for that one.

I should correct myself, too... In an earlier message I implied that the sunburst JB-75s were made of alder, but last night I discovered that they're ALL made of ash. Even the black ones... Which doesn't make much sense to me. To my mind, the reason to use ash is for the aesthetic of the grain. If you're going to paint it an opaque color, you might as well use alder, or poplar... Oh well.

I also discovered last night that Thomann has B-Stocks!

This may not be good for me... :?
Yeah, I discovered that after my first Thomann purchase, and most of the rest of my purchases have been b-stocks. But I think the secret is out! You gotta be quick to get one, now.
Yeah, you don't see the B-stocks until you get to the 5th or 6th page... I stopped looking when I found what I was there for.

To illustrate how insidious this disease is; I haven't had GAS for a long-ass time, and feeling fully satisfied and impressed with my recent purchase, it didn't take me long to start wondering what other basses they've got besides the the few I've seen, and I found myself back on the Thomann site looking for something else to want!

I spent some time gawking at the "enhanced" P-bass again, and though nothing really had a strong pull on me, when I came across the B-Stocks, I went: "uh-oh". :lol:

Their "Bass VI" copy looks interesting, but I already have plans (and some of the parts) to build a baritone guitar, so the GAS for that is slight... This Rickenbacker thing looks ridiculous, though:

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It looks cheap and super-fake, like the worst Ali Express Rickenbacker copies I've seen.

And how about that headstock? Huh?:
hb ric hs.jpg
I don't know how Rickenbacker can get their hooks into Thomann in Germany, but if you can't make an accurate Ric copy, I say you shouldn't even try. Anything you could come up with that comes "close" while skating around trademark law is just going to look ganky and cartoonish.
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nomadh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:19 pm Tim heard with price increase they are still offering 3 for 1 shipping. Maybe I should have had you get 2 and we could split the shipping. :)
Okay well who's in Virginia that wants a Benton...

Hahaha :)
Who wants in in San Diego? :)
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Well, it's official... After spending the last few days with this bass, I've come to the determination that it really needs no upgrades. I spent the better part of this morning A/B'ing the HB against my #1, and after some adjusting of pickup heights, I got them to sound pretty much identical to each other. Any minute difference that I can detect I attribute to the fact that the HB has brand new D'Addario XLs on it and the Jag has broken in DR Lo-Riders. I may record samples of each bass, but I don't need any further convincing. These Roswell pickups sound frickin' great!

I've been trying to kinda downplay my enthusiasm for this bass, because I don't want to come off like a fanboy, slinging hyperbole at first blush over a new toy, but this bass is pretty fucking awesome! I'm really glad I decided to hold off ordering a set of Fender pickups until I heard what the stock pickups sounded like. It's not uncommon for me to buy an import guitar online, and then order the pickups I want to put in it immediately afterward. And I'm pretty heavily biased towards Fender's Jazz Bass pickups... I haven't come across any third party manufacturers that I like as much as Fender (I'm kinda the same way about Tele pickups too), so the thought of an import pickup sounding this close is kind of unthinkable. :lol:

I went to the Roswell website and found out that this model is made pretty much the same as the pickups in my #1. Slightly overwound, but not crazy hot. DC resistance is about the same too (7.5 - 7.8k), and there was no noticeable difference in output between the two basses when I was playing them back to back.

Looks like my days of dishing out $160 for a set of Fender pickups are over. You can buy Roswell pickups (among other things) direct from Korea here: https://shoppartsland.com/roswell-pickups/.

I don't know what the shipping will cost, but I don't imagine it could be a deal breaker. These pickups cost like $35 apiece (GFS money). I haven't found a US source for these yet, and I probably won't, but I'm not done looking.

The weight of this bass isn't as much of an issue as I thought it would be, either... I'm still going to affect some weight relief (I already ordered the 3" Forstner bit) but it doesn't bother me at all when sitting down, and when standing, I use a 3" padded strap and I'm fine. It's heavy, but the main thing is; it doesn't cause me any pain or muscle spasms in my back. Some of you might remember that I sent back an Epiphone Sheraton a couple of years ago because it was too heavy. It wasn't as heavy as this bass, but I got all kinds of muscle spasms when I played it standing up. A bass balances differently than a guitar, and the weight is distributed over a wider area, whereas the weight of guitar is concentrated in a smaller area, so a heavy guitar feels more like a rock hanging around your neck than a heavy bass does.

In summation, I think Harley Benton has knocked SX off the top of the heap as king of the Fender-style imports. Whatever extra I have to pay for shipping is nothing compared to the money I'll save in replacement parts and pickups.
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Mossman wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:17 pm This Rickenbacker thing looks ridiculous, though:
I considered one of those for about half a second, but... Honestly, I doubt you could even sell something that close in the US before Rickenbacker was all over you. Oddly enough HB's "Rickenbacker" guitars look closer to the real thing, IMO, although maybe that's because Rickenbacker's guitars have varied a bit more than their basses have.
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glasshand wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:04 pm
I considered one of those for about half a second, but... Honestly, I doubt you could even sell something that close in the US before Rickenbacker was all over you.


I think they changed the design of that bass to suit the lawyers. I've come across some older photos, and I think it looked more like a Ric in the past.
glasshand wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:04 pm Oddly enough HB's "Rickenbacker" guitars look closer to the real thing, IMO, although maybe that's because Rickenbacker's guitars have varied a bit more than their basses have.
Yeah, and it's the guitars that should have stayed the same, while Rickenbacker basses need a lot of changes. None of which would alter the look of the bass very much, but all the fanboys would have a melt-down just the same.
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Thanks for posting this! I have been jonesing for a Jazz Bass, after setting up my best friend's Squire Vintage Modified. I am actually meeting up with Chandler (Golem) in a few minutes to check out a Squire Affinity at a local M-G-R, they have listed for 149. For me, it is all about the neck and the traditional Jazz Bass pickup configuration. A light, resonant body would suffice. However, I am going to strip and repaint what I get, as well as make a set of pickups and change the pots / harness.

I may also look at an Ibanezs Talman bass. Again - its all about how it plays.

I have a beautiful Tobias Toby Pro 6 that I won in a contest that I'll be selling shortly and whatever I get will be my recording bass. The Toby is just too much for me and has a very flat fret radius.
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andrewsrea wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:02 pm Thanks for posting this! I have been jonesing for a Jazz Bass, after setting up my best friend's Squire Vintage Modified. I am actually meeting up with Chandler (Golem) in a few minutes to check out a Squire Affinity at a local M-G-R, they have listed for 149. For me, it is all about the neck and the traditional Jazz Bass pickup configuration. A light, resonant body would suffice. However, I am going to strip and repaint what I get, as well as make a set of pickups and change the pots / harness.

I may also look at an Ibanezs Talman bass. Again - its all about how it plays.

I have a beautiful Tobias Toby Pro 6 that I won in a contest that I'll be selling shortly and whatever I get will be my recording bass. The Toby is just too much for me and has a very flat fret radius.
Yeah, if I won a 6-string bass, I'd probably sell it too... I don't even like 5-string basses. Or at least I haven't found one yet that I like enough to buy.

So did you buy that Affinity? Personally, I'd hold out for a VM or a CV (especially a CV), but you probably won't find one used for $150.

I may be turning into a Harley Benton fanboy, but based on my experience of the JB-75, I think a JB-20 might be a step above a used Affinity too: https://www.thomannmusic.com/harley_ben ... series.htm

It's currently out of stock, though, and that color is kinda naff (it does come in other finishes, and if you're going to refinish anyway, I guess it doesn't matter). I'm almost tempted to buy one when they're back in stock just to see how good/bad it is.
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Mossman wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:30 pm
andrewsrea wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:02 pm Thanks for posting this! I have been jonesing for a Jazz Bass, after setting up my best friend's Squire Vintage Modified. I am actually meeting up with Chandler (Golem) in a few minutes to check out a Squire Affinity at a local M-G-R, they have listed for 149. For me, it is all about the neck and the traditional Jazz Bass pickup configuration. A light, resonant body would suffice. However, I am going to strip and repaint what I get, as well as make a set of pickups and change the pots / harness.

I may also look at an Ibanezs Talman bass. Again - its all about how it plays.

I have a beautiful Tobias Toby Pro 6 that I won in a contest that I'll be selling shortly and whatever I get will be my recording bass. The Toby is just too much for me and has a very flat fret radius.
Yeah, if I won a 6-string bass, I'd probably sell it too... I don't even like 5-string basses. Or at least I haven't found one yet that I like enough to buy.

So did you buy that Affinity? Personally, I'd hold out for a VM or a CV (especially a CV), but you probably won't find one used for $150.

I may be turning into a Harley Benton fanboy, but based on my experience of the JB-75, I think a JB-20 might be a step above a used Affinity too: https://www.thomannmusic.com/harley_ben ... series.htm

It's currently out of stock, though, and that color is kinda naff (it does come in other finishes, and if you're going to refinish anyway, I guess it doesn't matter). I'm almost tempted to buy one when they're back in stock just to see how good/bad it is.
Yes, I bought the Affinity for $150, including tax. Bought a set of Rotosound Swing Bass 105's. I set it up perfectly (every fret intonated within 0.5 cents) and changed the volume pots to A250K (audio taper). It is one of the best sounding basses I've ever owned. As good as any real Jazz basses I've ever played. The ceramic pickups actually sound awesome with the tone on 50%. Ceramic magnet pickups and I rarely get along on guitar, but these are perfect for bass. I was going to build a set of A5's, but decided I'd be wasting my time.

@golem heard it through my 100w AMI Mixmaster and a 4x12 Marshall cab w/ Classic Lead 80's. To me, this sounded great for recording or live.

I have a can of Fiesta Red Nitro lacquer ordered and may need to order tuners. Two machines have wobbly keys. Hasn't affected holding pitch.

I'll be posting pics in another thread.
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andrewsrea wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:50 pm
Mossman wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:30 pm
andrewsrea wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:02 pm Thanks for posting this! I have been jonesing for a Jazz Bass, after setting up my best friend's Squire Vintage Modified. I am actually meeting up with Chandler (Golem) in a few minutes to check out a Squire Affinity at a local M-G-R, they have listed for 149. For me, it is all about the neck and the traditional Jazz Bass pickup configuration. A light, resonant body would suffice. However, I am going to strip and repaint what I get, as well as make a set of pickups and change the pots / harness.

I may also look at an Ibanezs Talman bass. Again - its all about how it plays.

I have a beautiful Tobias Toby Pro 6 that I won in a contest that I'll be selling shortly and whatever I get will be my recording bass. The Toby is just too much for me and has a very flat fret radius.
Yeah, if I won a 6-string bass, I'd probably sell it too... I don't even like 5-string basses. Or at least I haven't found one yet that I like enough to buy.

So did you buy that Affinity? Personally, I'd hold out for a VM or a CV (especially a CV), but you probably won't find one used for $150.

I may be turning into a Harley Benton fanboy, but based on my experience of the JB-75, I think a JB-20 might be a step above a used Affinity too: https://www.thomannmusic.com/harley_ben ... series.htm

It's currently out of stock, though, and that color is kinda naff (it does come in other finishes, and if you're going to refinish anyway, I guess it doesn't matter). I'm almost tempted to buy one when they're back in stock just to see how good/bad it is.
Yes, I bought the Affinity for $150, including tax. Bought a set of Rotosound Swing Bass 105's. I set it up perfectly (every fret intonated within 0.5 cents) and changed the volume pots to A250K (audio taper). It is one of the best sounding basses I've ever owned. As good as any real Jazz basses I've ever played. The ceramic pickups actually sound awesome with the tone on 50%. Ceramic magnet pickups and I rarely get along on guitar, but these are perfect for bass. I was going to build a set of A5's, but decided I'd be wasting my time.

@golem heard it through my 100w AMI Mixmaster and a 4x12 Marshall cab w/ Classic Lead 80's. To me, this sounded great for recording or live.

I have a can of Fiesta Red Nitro lacquer ordered and may need to order tuners. Two machines have wobbly keys. Hasn't affected holding pitch.

I'll be posting pics in another thread.

Cool! I think all the negative opinions of ceramic pickups I had were not due to the magnets, but due to the fact that cheap ceramic pickups are also often under-wound. That's why they sound harsh and shrill. Ceramic magnets actually impart a warmer, fuller tone.

I prefer A5s for a Jazz Bass, myself, but I have (and have had) ceramic bass pickups that sound fantastic. I also LOVE the pickups that came stock in the SX Gypsy Rose.

Before you buy any new tuners; I have enough bass tuners around here for about half a dozen basses. I'll give you a good deal. :-)
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