Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:19 am
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Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:52 am
Thank you! That was funny. I was out for years, but I watched a few videos recently about lawyers claiming plagiarism based on chord progression or even playing a single chord in an intro. Or rhythm. I'm sure someone will claim the 6/8 time signature as "original work" before it's all over. I think we've been nuked with a stupidity bomb and it's affecting people in various degrees
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:10 pm
You don't understand.
The "music" is irrelevant.
What does matter is the vacuous, politically correct, socially non contributing and schmoltzy "words" sung by smegma ingesting autotune aficionados.
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:49 pm
Everybody should just simmer down... J.S. Bach already wrote every melody that can be written (in the western scale), so there! If you think somebody ripped off your song, you probably ripped it off from Bach. His estate should be suing YOU!
Modern commercial pop music is made by machines and computers (some of these machines look human). The "talent" just needs to look good and fit the costume. They're completely bereft of original ideas, and don't even know how to repackage the old ones effectively... convincingly. I stopped listening to the radio over 20 years ago, but the stuff I hear in the supermarket, stores, etc., amazes me. How they can pass this cut-and-paste, hook-driven, repetitive garbage off as music is beyond me. It's ALL CHORUS, ALL HOOK, no substance. I've heard three minute songs with ONE VERSE OF LYRICS just repeated over and over again! Of course these people need to steal ideas! Or sue other people for stealing theirs, because they're so musically illiterate, they think they invented a chord.
Meanwhile, truly talented musicians with genuinely original ideas get left by the wayside.
Modern commercial pop music is made by machines and computers (some of these machines look human). The "talent" just needs to look good and fit the costume. They're completely bereft of original ideas, and don't even know how to repackage the old ones effectively... convincingly. I stopped listening to the radio over 20 years ago, but the stuff I hear in the supermarket, stores, etc., amazes me. How they can pass this cut-and-paste, hook-driven, repetitive garbage off as music is beyond me. It's ALL CHORUS, ALL HOOK, no substance. I've heard three minute songs with ONE VERSE OF LYRICS just repeated over and over again! Of course these people need to steal ideas! Or sue other people for stealing theirs, because they're so musically illiterate, they think they invented a chord.
Meanwhile, truly talented musicians with genuinely original ideas get left by the wayside.
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:57 pm
Popular music doesn't need to be deep. To dance all you need is a hook and a beat, the rest is just window dressing.Mossman wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:49 pm Everybody should just simmer down... J.S. Bach already wrote every melody that can be written (in the western scale), so there! If you think somebody ripped off your song, you probably ripped it off from Bach. His estate should be suing YOU!
Modern commercial pop music is made by machines and computers (some of these machines look human). The "talent" just needs to look good and fit the costume. They're completely bereft of original ideas, and don't even know how to repackage the old ones effectively... convincingly. I stopped listening to the radio over 20 years ago, but the stuff I hear in the supermarket, stores, etc., amazes me. How they can pass this cut-and-paste, hook-driven, repetitive garbage off as music is beyond me. It's ALL CHORUS, ALL HOOK, no substance. I've heard three minute songs with ONE VERSE OF LYRICS just repeated over and over again! Of course these people need to steal ideas! Or sue other people for stealing theirs, because they're so musically illiterate, they think they invented a chord.
Meanwhile, truly talented musicians with genuinely original ideas get left by the wayside.
Music for afficianados, has its place, but I like to dance!
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:02 pm
It's not all computers! I hear there's a couple of Swedish dudes also writing most of American music
It's just a matter of abandoning dinosaur "legacy" mediums like radio and television. I'm sure some talent is out there and they no longer care about impressing a producer or "ratings".
I agree, I haven't watched television for almost a decade and our new house doesn't even have a good place to put a TV. We'd like to have one on a wall somewhere, just as a monitor for an occasional movie or for video-conf, but there's just no good place for it. And I love that! And radio? Maybe in the car, but I often end up just turning it off after flipping through channels. I've kind of started liking some country (very out of character for me), but even those stations are ruined with prog-pop candy with the occasional rap-hook.
It's just a matter of abandoning dinosaur "legacy" mediums like radio and television. I'm sure some talent is out there and they no longer care about impressing a producer or "ratings".
I agree, I haven't watched television for almost a decade and our new house doesn't even have a good place to put a TV. We'd like to have one on a wall somewhere, just as a monitor for an occasional movie or for video-conf, but there's just no good place for it. And I love that! And radio? Maybe in the car, but I often end up just turning it off after flipping through channels. I've kind of started liking some country (very out of character for me), but even those stations are ruined with prog-pop candy with the occasional rap-hook.
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:15 pm
dabbler wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:57 pmPopular music doesn't need to be deep. To dance all you need is a join and a beat, the rest is just window dressing.Mossman wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:49 pm Everybody should just simmer down... J.S. Bach already wrote every melody that can be written (in the western scale), so there! If you think somebody ripped off your song, you probably ripped it off from Bach. His estate should be suing YOU!
Modern commercial pop music is made by machines and computers (some of these machines look human). The "talent" just needs to look good and fit the costume. They're completely bereft of original ideas, and don't even know how to repackage the old ones effectively... convincingly. I stopped listening to the radio over 20 years ago, but the stuff I hear in the supermarket, stores, etc., amazes me. How they can pass this cut-and-paste, hook-driven, repetitive garbage off as music is beyond me. It's ALL CHORUS, ALL HOOK, no substance. I've heard three minute songs with ONE VERSE OF LYRICS just repeated over and over again! Of course these people need to steal ideas! Or sue other people for stealing theirs, because they're so musically illiterate, they think they invented a chord.
Meanwhile, truly talented musicians with genuinely original ideas get left by the wayside.
Music for afficianados, has its place, but I like to dance!
You can dance to good music too, you know... Just sayin'.
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:37 pm
Don't even get me started on television... I excised that brainwashing apparatus from my life back in the '90s. That was a deliberate choice. With radio, it was more of a drifting away. FM radio started to change in the mid to late '80s. All the cool, hip, rock radio stations started becoming more commercial, until there were no "rock" radio stations anymore.Gear_Junky wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:02 pm It's not all computers! I hear there's a couple of Swedish dudes also writing most of American music
It's just a matter of abandoning dinosaur "legacy" mediums like radio and television. I'm sure some talent is out there and they no longer care about impressing a producer or "ratings".
I agree, I haven't watched television for almost a decade and our new house doesn't even have a good place to put a TV. We'd like to have one on a wall somewhere, just as a monitor for an occasional movie or for video-conf, but there's just no good place for it. And I love that! And radio? Maybe in the car, but I often end up just turning it off after flipping through channels. I've kind of started liking some country (very out of character for me), but even those stations are ruined with prog-pop candy with the occasional rap-hook.
I used to mostly listen to NPR in the car, until that got intolerable. The only other option is to listen to my own music, but I hate to futz with stuff while I'm driving, so I end up mostly listening to the sound of my tinnitus.
I almost forgot about those Swedish dudes! What a debt our musical culture owes to Sweden... First ABBA, now these guys!
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:48 pm
NPR... yes, I remember listening. I was flipping channels while driving recently and tried to listen in for a minute - almost vomited. They are fully 100% sponsored by the likes of SoreAss, yet they're still soliciting money from listeners. Propaganda without finesse, almost mind torture.
Funny, last I had TV, I mostly watched cooking shows, my favorite being Good Eats (Alton Brown), but I also liked Molto Mario, Emeril Live, Michael Chiarello and a few others (I actually cook, so I watched to learn). Amazing how even that genre managed to become completely inbred and commercialized, turned into a spectacle. No matter, there's great independent YouTube channels that do better. Off the bat I recommend "Food Wishes" by one Chef John. Quality videos, quality preparations, variety and humor and it's free and on-demand. I never watched TV news, it's like self-mutilation.
Funny, last I had TV, I mostly watched cooking shows, my favorite being Good Eats (Alton Brown), but I also liked Molto Mario, Emeril Live, Michael Chiarello and a few others (I actually cook, so I watched to learn). Amazing how even that genre managed to become completely inbred and commercialized, turned into a spectacle. No matter, there's great independent YouTube channels that do better. Off the bat I recommend "Food Wishes" by one Chef John. Quality videos, quality preparations, variety and humor and it's free and on-demand. I never watched TV news, it's like self-mutilation.
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:25 pm
Nice, didn't know they did this polished version. I'm used to the live one from many years ago:
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:57 pm
I hate to admit it, but most of what I watch is on YouTube. I have issues with the platform's censorious policies, and their pandering to the MSM, but it's like the modern library of Alexandria. You can learn anything you want on YouTube, from theoretical physics to thatch roof construction.Gear_Junky wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:48 pm NPR... yes, I remember listening. I was flipping channels while driving recently and tried to listen in for a minute - almost vomited. They are fully 100% sponsored by the likes of SoreAss, yet they're still soliciting money from listeners. Propaganda without finesse, almost mind torture.
Funny, last I had TV, I mostly watched cooking shows, my favorite being Good Eats (Alton Brown), but I also liked Molto Mario, Emeril Live, Michael Chiarello and a few others (I actually cook, so I watched to learn). Amazing how even that genre managed to become completely inbred and commercialized, turned into a spectacle. No matter, there's great independent YouTube channels that do better. Off the bat I recommend "Food Wishes" by one Chef John. Quality videos, quality preparations, variety and humor and it's free and on-demand. I never watched TV news, it's like self-mutilation.
The mainstream media has always been "fake news" (I got hip to that back in the '90s too). Project Mockingbird started in the '50s and never ended.
The quote by Samuel Clemens often comes to mind:
"If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you're mis-informed."
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:58 pm
Have I said something to anger you, Brad? ([mention]TVvoodoo[/mention]
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:14 am
It's true and I agree. But everything they show me in ads (I'm talking 100% of it) is discarded as garbage, so I feel I'm not supporting them. You know... Ancient Roman empire built roads as means of conquest and to propagate Roman rule. But early Christians used those roads to spread Christianity. I'm not starting a religious topic here, just a metaphor. Internet today (and any "platform" on it) started out for similar purposes, that was the design...Mossman wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:57 pm I hate to admit it, but most of what I watch is on YouTube. I have issues with the platform's censorious policies, and their pandering to the MSM, but it's like the modern library of Alexandria. You can learn anything you want on YouTube, from theoretical physics to thatch roof construction.
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:16 am
Damn.....who stole the bowl of Xanax? I think it needs to be passed around again....
Am I the only one around here that knows to stay well medicated?
Am I the only one around here that knows to stay well medicated?
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:43 pm
You can medicate most people some of the time... may your soma vacation be sweetPerfect Stranger wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:16 am Damn.....who stole the bowl of Xanax? I think it needs to be passed around again....
Am I the only one around here that knows to stay well medicated?
Re: Speaking of plagiarism
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:50 pm
Haha. Thanks [mention]Perfect Stranger[/mention].
I hadn’t seen that before.
I hadn’t seen that before.