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So, it was suggested by nomadh that I start a thread for all of us who were f***ed by Fender when it killed the Fuse app and dumped all the patches.

Remuda is a neat app for Android — I bought a Kindle Fire especially to run it, and it's my understanding that it works even better on regular Android devices.
It doesn't have the nifty interface of Fuse, but actually is a lot more user-friendly in a gig situation. All the functionality of Fuse, but switching between patches is much easier. There's still the slight delay between patches, maybe a more powerful device would take care of that, I don't know …

You can run it wirelessly if you have two devices, a big plus, I think. It seems to play well with my 2 & 4-button footswitches. While in a patch you have the option of opening it up and changing parameters on the fly, and it supports that really cool Mustang feature which allows you to revert to your default as long as you don't save the changes—very handy! What this means in effect is that you can tweak your patches for a given room situation but still have your default for the next gig.
You can create sets, either for a tune list or for changes within the structure of a single tune, which is where the footswitches come in handy …

It includes a good help manual at the touch of a button—the developer put a lot of thought into this one, try the free version first but it's not that expensive to get the full functionality (the trial version only allows you to tweak a few patches, and of course, the Mustang has 99 !)

And before you ask, I don't know if it works with the Mustang GT's, which have their own successor to Fuse—why Fender couldn't have made that backwards compatible and avoided pissing off a lot of loyal owners beats me (shades of Lily Tomlin — “We don’t care, we don’t have to, we’re the phone company.” )

Interesting. My first reaction was why switch patches from a tablet when you have foot switches? But Duh! Only mustang floor people have foot switches. This still sounds great but maybe not as useful for me withfull switchable banks of a pedalboard. Or is there other advantages there? So compared to the old fuse for offline editing and patch management is there a big diff?
Also , and I think [mention]sabasgr68[/mention] mentioned this, are there any good harder rock / metal patches that you've found? As I have been playing harder edge stuff I'm getting more good tones out of my vox vt vs the mustang stuff.

I downloaded the installer for FUSE back when they were talking about killing it, and still have it running on an older PC. To be honest once I got the patches tweaked the way I wanted them I havent't touched it in a long time. I probably have the installer file somewhere if anyone needs it, or you can probably find it out the web somewhere too.

I do have a kindle around here somewhere though and that's intersting to know that there is an alternative. I have a mustang mini, and have thought about grabbing a Mustang I on the cheap. People seem to be dumping them now that FUSE is gone, but they are great sounding amps IMHO.

I have the Fuse software and a bunch of patched downloaded and backed on my external drive in case I ever need it. It is currently installed on my PC and was working fine last I tried it. I setup abut 30 custom presets when I first got the amp and haven't made many changes since then. I don't use it much. I use my Monoprice 15w tube amp primarily. My son uses the Mustang occasionally.

uwmcscott wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:11 pm I downloaded the installer for FUSE back when they were talking about killing it, and still have it running on an older PC. To be honest once I got the patches tweaked the way I wanted them I havent't touched it in a long time. I probably have the installer file somewhere if anyone needs it, or you can probably find it out the web somewhere too.

I do have a kindle around here somewhere though and that's intersting to know that there is an alternative. I have a mustang mini, and have thought about grabbing a Mustang I on the cheap. People seem to be dumping them now that FUSE is gone, but they are great sounding amps IMHO.

I'd caution you about the Mustang I's and II's—they only have treble and bass knobs, no mid control, so you have to go into the patch to adjust that, as oppose to a quick swipe at the knob on the amp. The III is a real work horse, and lighter than my Vox AD50VT … some of the default basic amp patches are very nice, especially (of course) the Fender ones.

nomadh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:01 pm Interesting. My first reaction was why switch patches from a tablet when you have foot switches? But Duh! Only mustang floor people have foot switches. This still sounds great but maybe not as useful for me withfull switchable banks of a pedalboard. Or is there other advantages there? So compared to the old fuse for offline editing and patch management is there a big diff?
Also , and I think @sabasgr68 mentioned this, are there any good harder rock / metal patches that you've found? As I have been playing harder edge stuff I'm getting more good tones out of my vox vt vs the mustang stuff.

With a larger tablet you can see almost all the patches by name, better than trying to remember what # goes with which patch.
The big advantage for me is being able to change parameters on the fly (horizontal slider bars) as opposed to punching down on the big button on the amp and then having to scroll through the options, or remembering which foot switch is assigned to which parameter. Really handy for dialing in the room, or outdoor venue. By combining the app and switches you can easily modulate a patch in different sections of a tune, most obvious case being rhythm versus solo.
The interface is very simple, no flashy visual representations of amps and pedals or effects chain, but it gets the job done.

With regard to harder patches, I'm primarily a Jazz/Latin/Fusion player, but there's a ton of stuff in there for when I want to rock out with a bluesy overdriven tone—most of those sounds I discover in the heat of the moment … I do have a local reputation for playing outside the genre specs—I say if it sounds good, use it, and to hell with "Jazz tone", etc., etc. I once blew away a very talented piano player by using heavy fuzz, chorus and delay on "Misty"!!
One thing I really hate is listening to somebody play a whole gig using only one tone …

t100d wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:28 pm I'd caution you about the Mustang I's and II's—they only have treble and bass knobs, no mid control, so you have to go into the patch to adjust that, as oppose to a quick swipe at the knob on the amp. The III is a real work horse, and lighter than my Vox AD50VT … some of the default basic amp patches are very nice, especially (of course) the Fender ones.

In one of the updates, they added the functionality of adjusting mids on the amp with the treble knob while pressing the EXIT button. It was nice they added it.

Nice review on the Remuda app, [mention]t100d[/mention] , thanks.

I wanted to try it, but the two main "buts" were my crappy 8GB celphone lack of available memory - it keeps on saying out of space, even though the only additional apps I´ve installed are twitter lite, whatsapp, and two or three bank apps, all of them not heavy on megas -, and my crappy celphone lack of USB OTG support which it allegedly had. I wanted to try it just to be able to play and adjust sounds without being hooked to the PC. I think it is a nice and useful app, from what I´ve read about it.

Same as [mention]uwmcscott[/mention] , I had some patches close to my liking and never touched them again, except for the heavier sound(s) I´m still looking for. I agree the Mustang sounds nice in general, it is just not really suitable for heavy players, IMHO. And I´m only talking about the one I have, the Mustang I V1.

Recently [mention]LightWingStudios[/mention] mentioned a trick for "beefing up" the sound a little adding some chorus, which I tried and actually worked, it gives more body to it. Learned something new!

The Mustang I only comes with an overdrive pedal, no distortion pedals, like many other modelers do, and that´s why I think it just can take you to a certain limit. And when I say heavy I mean like these kind of sounds (I´m sure you will laugh!): guitar on Survivor´s Eye of the Tiger, and Radiohead´s Creep (the chorus part). That´s my heavy definiton

[mention]nomadh[/mention] American ´90s, Metal 2000, British ´70s and Fender Super Sonic are the choices for heavy sounds, tweaking and trying different cabs, BIAS, and general adjustments (treble, medium, bass, presence, etc). It can become tiresome, though. You burn up your playing time and then you don´t feel like wanting to play.

One thing to mention: I play with headphones, and I guess the sound shaped that way is different from the sound shaped via the speaker - you know, moving the air, and the room, etc -. I just can´t play it "live" at home! The few times I have played without headphones on, the sound that came out was very different from the one coming from the HPs. So adjustments have to be made according to the output (HP or speaker). I have all my presets set to HP, of course.

Regarding Fender, yes, they suddenly left us in the middle of nowhere with FUSE. People say that Fender shoud have left it open source, for those who knows, to make the improvements it needed over the years. Don´t know if it would have worked. Back then I kept on asking Fender in the FUSE/Mustang forum, along with others, to include an acoustic simulator in every next version of F, but never happened. Ironically, they included it on Mustang GTs!

I DIYed a single footswitch that allows me to switch between two presets, that´s the only thing you can do in the model I with a footswitch.

Good idea the Mustang thread.

t100d wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:28 pm I'd caution you about the Mustang I's and II's—they only have treble and bass knobs, no mid control, so you have to go into the patch to adjust that, as oppose to a quick swipe at the knob on the amp. The III is a real work horse, and lighter than my Vox AD50VT … some of the default basic amp patches are very nice, especially (of course) the Fender ones.

Thanks- I've actually owned several of the mustangs. My first amp after getting back into playiong was a V1 Mustang 1 and I really liked it. I ended up loaning it to a friend and he liked it so much that he wanted to buy it! So I then bought a Mustang III with the whole setup - 4 button footswitch, volume/wah pedal,etc - and I really liked the extra tactile controls but it was just too big and loud for my living room. Along the way I also picked up a Mustang Mini - which is a tiny little thing with a 6" speaker and runs either off an AC adapter or even C-cell batteries. It is a super fun/portable littl e rig and I still use it a lot. They were not too common and hard to find now, but there are a crap-ton of the Mustang 1's out there used...they are almost like the Peavey Bandit of the 2010's. Not having the mid control is no biggie for me, I mostly just play at home in my living room.

I did not know about the treble knob/exit button trick [mention]sabasgr68[/mention] pointed out..going to go try that on my mini now!