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PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:36 am
by toomanycats
I know Hendrix did it. I know Stevie Ray Vaughn also did it, undoubtedly as a referencing and homage to Jimi. I've seen Yngwie do it.

The real meaning of playing guitar over the head is this: "My virtuosic skills are such that I can handicap myself and still possess complete command of the instrument." It's like the circus performer throwing knives at a lady on a spinning wheel . . . and then he blindfolds himself. Jimi, Stevie, and Yngwie played guitar over the head in this spirit.

But what I'm referring to is people who do this move theatrically, as a gimmick, as a "look-at-me" gesture that's bereft of it's original significance as a demonstration of complete and utter mastery of the instrument, even when handicapped.

I remember watching this middle aged guy at a late afternoon gig in a grocery store playing guitar over his head, noodling some sloppy pentatonic crap, his shirt hiked up and his white belly hanging out over his belt. It was one of the saddest things I've ever seen. I also recently saw a young guy of mediocre skill doing this move at a bar gig. I think about how much time these guys spent looking at themselves in the mirror doing this ridiculous pose, time they could have better spent developing foundational technique and skills.

What say you? Is playing guitar behind the head cool, or is it indicative of an uber-douche? Vote in the poll above.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:54 am
by Partscaster
And, I believe that Jimi saw someone earlier do it. I cant recall who. But it was some regular on perhaps the Chitlin circuit. Its like juggling on a unicycle. If someone's good at it, thats worthy of applause. If they arent good, it degrades from the performance...but might be worth laughing at....if they're being a clown about it.

Then there's playing behind your back.
Then theres also playing with one's teeth.

My aim is to get good at playing behind my back with my teeth.
I'm gonna have to wait for full dentures , but then , I'm gonna make the other clowns cry.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:08 am
by peskypesky
I did it the last time I played live and the audience loved it. You have to read the room.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:14 am
by peskypesky
now if I could just do a split:

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Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:15 am
by peskypesky
I'm still working on this one:
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Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:18 am
by peskypesky
and hey, if Bill Kirchen does it, it's cool:

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Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:33 am
by tonebender
It does not bother me. To use an analogy, it's like the females that are inclined to show the puppies. Not all puppies would win blue ribbons at the county fair but no matter, I was always appreciative they were willing to be a sport.

I have never played the guitar in that manner but I have to admit when I was much younger, I did the Chuck Berry duck walk a few times while covering Johnny B Goode or Nadine. I was much more agile back then.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:16 am
by uwmcscott
IMHO, anyone willing to get up on a stage and play in front of people has license to play however they like. If you don't like their moves, go to a different show ;-)

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:30 am
by dabbler
One player's cool is another player's ___________

Different strokes for different folks.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:09 am
by BatUtilityBelt
Jimi also lit a guitar on fire, and played with his teeth. And neither of those was his original idea either. It's putting on a show, and whether or not anyone engages in the antics, it can just be part of the show. Nothing wrong with it. But I agree if you can't play well, you are wasting time embellishing the performance that way.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:52 pm
by tlarson58
I can't do that but one time at practice I did the Angus convulse-on-the-floor move.

It killed.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:23 am
by toomanycats
BatUtilityBelt wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:09 am I agree if you can't play well, you are wasting time embellishing the performance that way.
There's a word for it. It's called "cheesy," which means blatantly inauthentic.

Guy #1: Plays the first half of Steve Vai's "Eugenes's Trick Bag" with the guitar in front . . . then he puts it behind his head and proceeds to play the second half. Audience justifiably goes crazy. That's because they're informed and educated listeners, they know and appreciate what skill is required to accomplish such a feat, and that they've just witnessed an authentic demonstration of virtuosity. Paganini used to do something similar. He'd begin performing an impossibly technical piece, then purposefully break a string in the middle of it, then continue. Then he'd purposefully break another string, but he would continue. And so on until he had a single string left, with which he'd finish the piece. In terms of "stagecraft" the guitar behind the head thing is really a modern version of this 18th century "I'm making it harder on myself" exhibition of exemplary skill.

Guy #2: Puts a guitar over his head as a theatrical, attention grabbing, empty gesture that is completely abstracted from it's original symbolic meaning. Audience goes nuts because they've been cultivated to enjoy cheese.

But who am I to argue against cheese. Cheese = $. I'm just a quixotic malcontent living out of time in a world of dead symbols.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:21 am
by Tonray's Ghost
I once tried a Pete Townshend 'windmill' but almost lost my balance and it looked more like a ballet pirouette.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:23 pm
by Rollin Hand
It's cheesy and been done to death but if you can do it, why not? After a few beers, the crowd will love it.

Side note: apparently at clinics, Paul Gilbert used to do sweep picking. With his teeth.

Degree of Difficulty: 5/5

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:47 pm
by MichaelR
I voted Douchbag but I don't feel that strongly about it, I just don't care for gimmicks like that myself. I remember seeing a video where a guy tried to spin his guitar around by the strap without having strap locks and watching it fly away and go crunch. Another good reason to gig with cheap guitars, the fail is at about 1.17 in the video.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:13 pm
by golem
I'm a fan of Hendrix so you know what my vote is.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:38 am
by andrewsrea
I am less impressed with the guitar behind the head trick and more impressed by guys like Tim Pierce, Pete Thorn, Mike Hermans, Shawn Tubbs, etc. who rarely need to look at their fret board to play and who are instead, engaging with the audience.

Re: PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND YOUR HEAD: COOL or ULTIMATE DOUCHEBAG MOVE?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:03 pm
by Tonray's Ghost
andrewsrea wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:38 am I am less impressed with the guitar behind the head trick and more impressed by guys like Tim Pierce, Pete Thorn, Mike Hermans, Shawn Tubbs, etc. who rarely need to look at their fret board to play and who are instead, engaging with the audience.
I'm on an eye contact personal basis with my fret markers....we engage daily