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Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:35 am
by BatUtilityBelt
I was cheap and I'm paying for that with constant fear. Maybe that's exaggerated, but not a lot. Here's the deal. My soldering station works well, but about half the time, thermal expansion meets bad design at the most inopportune moments. Where the arrow is, it overheats and the threading suddenly means nothing, so it pops into two pieces and I freak a little, for two reasons. It is impacting the job at hand, and I have to react while actively resisting grabbing it at the wrong place to avoid further danger (and hot potato). I'm sick of it.
So for guitars and other reasonably discreet soldering jobs, what's your favorite soldering station and why? I'm shopping. Thanks!
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:33 am
by mickey
Pardon me but in my view, THAT IS NOT a soldering station. It is a soldering iron.
I have three soldering stations of different sizes for different jobs. You wouldn't want to solder IC's to a printed circuit board with the same setup you use to solder a ground to the back of a pot. At least if you want to succeed at both jobs. The oldest of my soldering stations I got in 1984 and the newest some time in the 1990's. They are all made by Weller and parts are still available, not that I have ever needed any except for new tips. Why Weller? Because that is the only brand my employer used. Thus I used similar at work & trusted them.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:41 am
by BatUtilityBelt
mickey wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:33 am
Pardon me but in my view, THAT IS NOT a soldering station. It is a soldering iron.
Sorry Mickey, you are pardoned.
The first pic was just denoting the problem. For clarification, here's the rest of it too.
I only need one station, because different tips for different jobs. But I like to control the temperature well. Other than that, I'm open to what's important about other stations.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:09 pm
by BatUtilityBelt
If I go Weller, I'm thinking this WE1010NA for $105 would do nicely. More thoughts welcome.
https://www.amazon.com/Weller-WE1010NA- ... =hi&sr=1-3
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:21 pm
by BatUtilityBelt
If I don't go Weller, I'm thinking this one with the rework heat gun would be great for all those desoldering tasks.
https://www.amazon.com/YIHUA-Soldering- ... 2&sr=8-101
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:01 pm
by peskypesky
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:51 pm
by mozz
Weller, Hakko, Pace. I have tried other "off" brands, tips are junk, temp vary too much, problems with base switch(had to hotwire it). Not worth the few dollars you save. Weller aren't quite the dependable station they used to be, i guess it's a QC thing but my pair bought in the last few years are working fine. I also use them most everyday also.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:43 pm
by BatUtilityBelt
I just decided on the Weller, even though I prefer a dial to buttons. Overall it looks solid, and the pelham blue probably adds mojo tone.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:59 pm
by Buddha Pickups
I also have a Yihua but it's not as fancy as that one. I've changed the tip once or twice and the heating element once I think but it's still going strong after 7ish years.
As long as it gets hot enough and has a good tip, you'll be fine.
I used a cheap $20 home depot Weller before my current one.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:10 pm
by jtcnj
@BatUtilityBelt I see you already decided, but I'll add this content to the thread.
I have been using this one through several amp builds, a few pedals, and a good bit of guitar work, since 2016 I think.
I also got a set of extra tips, the typical small pointy ones, and mainly the big blunt one for soldering to the back of pots.
Its a bit inconvenient waiting for it to cool to change tips, but worth it.
Been fine so far, and done everything I have needed.
www.amazon.com/Aoyue-Variable-Soldering ... r=1-2&th=1
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:43 pm
by Rollin Hand
jtcnj wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:10 pm
@BatUtilityBelt I see you already decided, but I'll add this content to the thread.
I have been using this one through several amp builds, a few pedals, and a good bit of guitar work, since 2016 I think.
I also got a set of extra tips, the typical small pointy ones, and mainly the big blunt one for soldering to the back of pots.
Its a bit inconvenient waiting for it to cool to change tips, but worth it.
Been fine so far, and done everything I have needed.
www.amazon.com/Aoyue-Variable-Soldering ... r=1-2&th=1
I have this one as well, and it works for me.
Of course, I am lousy at soldering, so take that with a grain of salt.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:21 pm
by MichaelR
I've been using a Stahl ssvt which is a cheap work station which does not have a digital display but it has worked quite well and I can buy new tips for it which can be important. I bought it because I'm cheap and as I say its worked quite well for about 8 years now.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:58 pm
by honyock
MichaelR wrote:I've been using a Stahl ssvt which is a cheap work station which does not have a digital display but it has worked quite well and I can buy new tips for it which can be important. I bought it because I'm cheap and as I say its worked quite well for about 8 years now.
I've got the same. Bought it through Parts Express. I've got lots of hours on it, on just my 2nd tip in probably 6 years I've owned it.
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Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:07 pm
by BatUtilityBelt
I appreciate all the input! My Weller arrived, and the online images are misleading. It is not pelham blue, it's definitely seafoam green. My own cell phone makes it look pelham blue too, so I don't think it's a conspiracy. But all the tone I was hoping that pelham blue would impart into guitars is gone now.
On a more sober note, I see I will have to buy all new tips because my existing tips are not compatible.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:42 pm
by mozz
Weller brand tips are what you want. Do not buy any labeled " compatable". I really don't swap tips that much. The pointed one, for me, does everything from ic's to the back of pots, just up the temp and when you done with pots, turn it back down. I think I run about 750 but I'm mostly working on tube stuff right now. Get rid of that brass sponge. Put a dab of solder on when it's idling, wipe before you use it, ( if needed) , dab before you idle
again. Any abrasive will shorten the tips life. Use real lead solder 63/ 37.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:48 pm
by BatUtilityBelt
mozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:42 pm
Weller brand tips are what you want. Do not buy any labeled " compatable". I really don't swap tips that much. The pointed one, for me, does everything from ic's to the back of pots, just up the temp and when you done with pots, turn it back down. I think I run about 750 but I'm mostly working on tube stuff right now. Get rid of that brass sponge. Put a dab of solder on when it's idling, wipe before you use it, ( if needed) , dab before you idle
again. Any abrasive will shorten the tips life. Use real lead solder 63/ 37.
I agree Weller branded probably have a closer tolerance, which is important for heat transfer. I don't swap tips much either, but can't see myself living with just the one. I only solder things once or twice a week, and have never seen a tip go bad, and never had problems getting enough heat. I completely agree with keeping it tinned and clean, but I actually love the brass compared to a sponge.
Re: Which soldering station why?
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:23 pm
by mozz
My point was the tip plating. That is where the aftermarket tips cheap out. Little bit of solder protects that. My Weller also drops the temp to 360 if it idles too long, maybe 5 minutes, pretty sure it's adjustable time out. If you are continuing to use it, it won't go to sleep mode.