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Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:02 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:03 pm**

These Momo farkers really farked up a good thing and I am still pissed.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:42 am**

There are those who say its better to forgive and forget.

F*ck that!

Please refer to the old Irish curse used as my signature below.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:41 am**

Please, please tell us if you get a response

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:50 am**

I haven't checked lately but when I did a few months back, it had been averaging a couple new posts a week since with few if any responses and 90% of them were from their puppet moderator...

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:03 am**

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Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:01 pm**

What if momo had a good preconversion backup and we could either port every pic and post and PM into here or some how get all our old data back. Would there be interest?
What would we pay? I'd kick in a few bucks to have my history back. Someday when I'm famous it may be worth something

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:30 pm**

nomadh wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:01 pm What if momo had a good preconversion backup and we could either port every pic and post and PM into here or some how get all our old data back. Would there be interest?
What would we pay? I'd kick in a few bucks to have my history back. Someday when I'm famous it may be worth something

I would have thought about it last May, not now and I don't want to compensate their behavior.

I still say that we were a little lucky in that they were virgins and didn't know exactly what they were doing. We, which is to say LightWingStudios, was able to get the dotNet and though they tried to stop it we were able to get the word out to many using our hijacked platform.
MOMO probably learned a lot about where, when, and how to stick it in. I would say we go the Momo vaccine.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:57 pm**

Floridian FX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:03 am ScreenHunter 09.png[/img]

Wow, it looks like they finally got around to migrating over a lot of the sub-forums. I figured out a way to copy entire threads to pdfs but the quality of the uploaded pics is pretty poor...

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:58 pm**

nomadh wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:01 pm What if momo had a good preconversion backup and we could either port every pic and post and PM into here or some how get all our old data back. Would there be interest?
What would we pay? I'd kick in a few bucks to have my history back. Someday when I'm famous it may be worth something

Patrick explored that possibility but for a number of reasons including logistical, it was a non-starter. A real shame though...

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:00 pm**

I'm still scratching my head over what they're trying to accomplish with that site. And because there are so many far superior alternatives, why anyone would want to start a group there...

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:12 pm**

Floridian FX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:03 am ScreenHunter 09.png[/img]

Seems a bit overly dismissive but I could be wrong.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:18 pm**

ID10t wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:30 pm
nomadh wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:01 pm What if momo had a good preconversion backup and we could either port every pic and post and PM into here or some how get all our old data back. Would there be interest?
What would we pay? I'd kick in a few bucks to have my history back. Someday when I'm famous it may be worth something
I would have thought about it last May, not now and I don't want to compensate their behavior.

I still say that we were a little lucky in that they were virgins and didn't know exactly what they were doing. We, which is to say LightWingStudios, was able to get the dotNet and though they tried to stop it we were able to get the word out to many using our hijacked platform.
MOMO probably learned a lot about where, when, and how to stick it in. I would say we go the Momo vaccine.

At the time my only strategy was to contact them to see if they'd sell us the Domain and/or just the Content. When they said "No."

In response I just quickly and quietly used the old NUKE 'EM IF 'YA GOT 'EM! ploy.

Had a new site up in days. Hopefully they shat themselves.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:16 pm**

Floridian FX wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:03 pm These Momo farkers really farked up a good thing and I am still pissed.

Those are not the words that I typed. Your selective censorship is complete bullshit.
I guess if my name was @peskypesky I could type whatever I pleased with no repercussions.

I have been with AGF since 2008. As of tonight I am no more. You guys know where to find me.

Grip it and rip it.

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:08 am**

Floridian FX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:16 pm
Floridian FX wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:03 pm These Momo farkers really farked up a good thing and I am still pissed.
Those are not the words that I typed. Your selective censorship is complete bullshit.
I guess if my name was @peskypesky I could type whatever I pleased with no repercussions.

I have been with AGF since 2008. As of tonight I am no more. You guys know where to find me.

Grip it and rip it.

Is this happening on this board?

Why?! Do we need child restrictions here?

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:14 am**

Floridian FX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:16 pm
Those are not the words that I typed. Your selective censorship is complete bullshit.
I guess if my name was @peskypesky I could type whatever I pleased with no repercussions.

I have been with AGF since 2008. As of tonight I am no more. You guys know where to find me.

Grip it and rip it.

Well that escalated quickly.

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:13 am**

Floridian FX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:16 pm
Floridian FX wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:03 pm These Momo farkers really farked up a good thing and I am still pissed.
Those are not the words that I typed. Your selective censorship is complete bullshit.
I guess if my name was @peskypesky I could type whatever I pleased with no repercussions.

I have been with AGF since 2008. As of tonight I am no more. You guys know where to find me.

Grip it and rip it.

Sorry about that!
I don't know where to find you!

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:08 am**

Floridian FX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:16 pm
Floridian FX wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:03 pm These Momo farkers really farked up a good thing and I am still pissed.
Those are not the words that I typed. Your selective censorship is complete bullshit.
I guess if my name was @peskypesky I could type whatever I pleased with no repercussions.

I have been with AGF since 2008. As of tonight I am no more. You guys know where to find me.

Grip it and rip it.

Ryan certainly has way with words but there are a lot of things that could use an honest explanation around here @LightWingStudios

More than once posts, and even entire threads have been deleted based on profanity or other topics without any explanation. None of the current moderators have knowledge of who or how or why they were removed, that has been publicly discussed here as well.

Bottom line Patrick - if you have a problem with particular issues such as foul language or firearms or whatever that's fine. But if you expect this community to grow, or even continue to exist, you need to be transparent about it and post your wants/needs in the forum rules. And when you do ( or whomever else might be deleting this content without notice ) you need to notify people. A simple "your post was deleted because it goes against community guidelines" is sufficient.

Because in the end, what you ( or whomever else ) is doing is also killing this forum, just not quite as quickly as the MOMO folks did. This is probably the third or fourth time this issue has gotten bad enough to lose another member, and just when you think things have improved it happens again. And who knows how much has been deleted collectively that we'll never see?

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:21 am**

uwmcscott wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:08 am
Floridian FX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:16 pm
Floridian FX wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:03 pm These Momo farkers really farked up a good thing and I am still pissed.
Those are not the words that I typed. Your selective censorship is complete bullshit.
I guess if my name was @peskypesky I could type whatever I pleased with no repercussions.

I have been with AGF since 2008. As of tonight I am no more. You guys know where to find me.

Grip it and rip it.
Ryan certainly has way with words but there are a lot of things that could use an honest explanation around here @LightWingStudios

More than once posts, and even entire threads have been deleted based on profanity or other topics without any explanation. None of the current moderators have knowledge of who or how or why they were removed, that has been publicly discussed here as well.

Bottom line Patrick - if you have a problem with particular issues such as foul language or firearms or whatever that's fine. But if you expect this community to grow, or even continue to exist, you need to be transparent about it and post your wants/needs in the forum rules. And when you do ( or whomever else might be deleting this content without notice ) you need to notify people. A simple "your post was deleted because it goes against community guidelines" is sufficient.

Because in the end, what you ( or whomever else ) is doing is also killing this forum, just not quite as quickly as the MOMO folks did. This is probably the third or fourth time this issue has gotten bad enough to lose another member, and just when you think things have improved it happens again. And who knows how much has been deleted collectively that we'll never see?

FWIW, I've posted my opinion on this as well as similar suggestions in the Moderator Forum and am waiting for clarification...

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:23 pm**

Kind of a "Dangling Conversation?"...

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:38 pm**

awkwaaaard....

Posted: **Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:12 pm**

Alright, I am back. Whatever. I realized that since @mickey will never be on Facebook there is no way I can keep track of his shenanigans. After reading posts from all of you for the last 13 years....well it is a hard drug to give up. That being said....

The no profanity rule is a bullshit rule that is half-assed enforced, and benefits no one. Don't like the way I talk, then block me. You won't be the first, you won't be the last. The thing I miss most about the old AGF is there were 2 rules: No Religion and No Politics. That rule applied to everyone, not certain people. It was enforced by the mods, not the Almighty. AGF was one of the few places I could speak the way that I wanted to, or convey the emotions that I wanted to, without consequences. It was like the wild west. Not that I am not appreciative of everything that has been done here, but posts being modified or deleted without reason is some ugly mustard.

If Supreme Leader Lightwing wants to search all my posts and censor them like a 3rd grader trying to swear, so be it, it won't stop me at this point.

Posted: **Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:42 pm**

FWIW, I posted this in the Moderators Forum a few days ago. I have not yet received a response from Patrick:

Does anybody know anything about Floridian FX having his post post edited for language?

http://aguitarforum.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 1dee06080a

Apparently, "fuc" was replaced with "far' without his knowledge nor was he notified of his post being edited.

I'm no fan of that kind of language and use obvious substitutes in my posts if I feel the it's within the context. However and unfortunately, words that once were generally considered obscene have entered mainstream journalism and so I don't see myself as an arbiter of what is appropriate language and what is not.

Ryan is upset that his posts were edited as well as not being notified of the edits and I can understand that. I can not recall this kind of language being edited in previous iterations of AGF nor could I find any reference to specific site restrictions on posts other than political content. The only reference to language is this statement on the board index page: "The use of profanity is GREATLY DISCOURAGED...we're are all adults here so let's act like it and please govern yourself accordingly" . It says discouraged, not prohibited.

IMO, If the latter is the case, then the rules need to be updated to reflect that. The definition of what constitutes profanity also needs to be further defined as what I think is obscene obviously might not be the same as someone else (I specifically recall getting cracked over the head with a ruler in 4th grade by Sister Mary Elizabeth for saying the word "crap"). The rule then needs to be consistently applied with members being notified of any edits to their posts and the reason for it specifically referenced. Otherwise, to arbitrarily apply this without further definition and notification will appear to be selective enforcement and Ryan referenced that specifically, basically asking if other members can use that language in their posts then why can't he? I've got no answer for that....

Posted: **Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:48 pm**

Well, TJ & I will likely both probably get banned, but here was my response to his post in the mods forum:

Based on the contents of my email since this occurred, aside from selling it to MoMo, this is about the quickest way of killing AGF.
People do not expect (nor like) having their posts arbitrarily edited for language (or anything else) and it has never been the norm on AGF.
If it continues I expect to see an exodus from AGF.
A real shame to first save AGF then kill it for no good reason.

Posted: **Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:02 pm**

mickey wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:48 pm Well, TJ & I will likely both probably get banned, but here was my response to his post in the mods forum:

If you are worried about getting banned for the above, then I think we have a bigger problem than a couple F-bombs littered about.

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