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Finally, something Jersey can be proud of, we didn’t descend into looting and fires!
We had protest marches, but that was all.
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I just got a phone call with a recorded message telling me the city of Jacksonville has a mandatory curfew starting at 8 pm tonight. I don't live in JAX and I have no reason to go out anyway but this is really a crazy time.
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Last night, the curfew was only in effect for Los Angeles proper. Tonight, all of LA County is under lock-down, starting now.
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This has been brewing in Merica for a long time now. Instead of training cops to learn how to deescalate they have been told to get tough and rough and giving military weapons to do it with.
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MichaelR wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:08 pm This has been brewing in Merica for a long time now. Instead of training cops to learn how to deescalate they have been told to get tough and rough and giving military weapons to do it with.
With respect, I disagree with your opinion on the matter. There are generations of people that have not been trained to deescalate situations, not just police. Some people just believe that they don't have to answer for illegal activity, and when the police need to step in, they refuse to go peacefully. Then when force needs to be utilized, all of the blame is put on the police. This has been my perception of events, and I'm not saying that what occurred in Minnesota was right, because it wasn't.
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BrianSkeezer wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:19 pm
MichaelR wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:08 pm This has been brewing in Merica for a long time now. Instead of training cops to learn how to deescalate they have been told to get tough and rough and giving military weapons to do it with.
With respect, I disagree with your opinion on the matter. There are generations of people that have not been trained to deescalate situations, not just police. Some people just believe that they don't have to answer for illegal activity, and when the police need to step in, they refuse to go peacefully. Then when force needs to be utilized, all of the blame is put on the police. This has been my perception of events, and I'm not saying that what occurred in Minnesota was right, because it wasn't.
You are both correct, poor selection training and oversight of the police in certain locales, and a community trained to be uncivil, dishonest and disrespectful, especially towards police. It is the same people who have encouraged both and who benefit greatly from the division, poverty and violence that results.
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Well it looks like business as usual around here... The curfew is going largely unobserved. Largely unenforced.
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Yesterday, they extended the curfew to the entire LA County from 6pm to 6am this morning, and moved the National Guard in. Its getting exciting (in a bad way) out west...
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I hear parts of LA now have a curfew of 1pm. Remember when your parents tell you nothing good happens after 1pm. Anything after lunch is just a no no.
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nomadh wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 1:35 am When they let a police station burn down and the cops ran. We were all screwed. I here theres some rednecks with rifles helping to guard some local businesses. Funny how those places are doing fine.
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Think I've figured it out! Why everyone out west is so upset.
Saw a video on TV a while ago where people had spray painted "BLM" on buildings..
During the time I lived out west, everyone I met was pissed at the Bureau of Land Management about something.
Not the same somethings, but everyone was pissed at the BLM.
So, if they've started protesting the BLM, I would expect everyone to join in! :roll: ;)
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Last night in STL, they were throwing stuff off the overpasses on cars...... Why can't they focus on looting the Food King
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pratteman wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:59 pm Why can't they focus on looting the Food King
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MichaelR wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:08 pm This has been brewing in Merica for a long time now. Instead of training cops to learn how to deescalate they have been told to get tough and rough and giving military weapons to do it with.
That's not exactly true nationwide. My brother went through the Academy to be a city cop and they discussed deescalation at length. I just asked my father, the retired Alabama DA Investigator and he allowed that he must have gone to at least a class on that subject every year for his entire career. In fact, I remember my father being given so much recurring education during his career that I wondered how that he ever had time to do his job. I would guess that today's cop has more training and education than ever in history. Many street cops have 4 year degrees in Law Enforcement.
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Raindog wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:22 pm
MichaelR wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:08 pm This has been brewing in Merica for a long time now. Instead of training cops to learn how to deescalate they have been told to get tough and rough and giving military weapons to do it with.
That's not exactly true nationwide. My brother went through the Academy to be a city cop and they discussed deescalation at length. I just asked my father, the retired Alabama DA Investigator and he allowed that he must have gone to at least a class on that subject every year for his entire career. In fact, I remember my father being given so much recurring education during his career that I wondered how that he ever had time to do his job. I would guess that today's cop has more training and education than ever in history. Many street cops have 4 year degrees in Law Enforcement.
Well... not about your folks but, generally, where did all this education go, and how good was it?
Perhaps there is something else at play, that was not part of cop class work?
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